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I agree with this by Bananadine 07/10/2010, 2:38pm PDT Cos I played through it for the first time well into the GameCube years and it was awesome. Much more recently I played Super Mario Sunshine and got mad at it and stopped halfway through. It's like Super Mario 64 except instead of being about running and jumping and exploring, it's about collecting crap. And there's a LOT of crap to collect, and most of it isn't much fun to search for. Plus the tropical island is ugly. At this moment I am about to finish Yoshi's Island, which is like Super Mario World except instead of being about running and jumping and finding secrets, it's about collecting crap. It's a lot better than Mario Sunshine, but it still kinda sucks. If you happen to get hit by a boss, during your first attempt at fighting it, the game's scoring system actually encourages you to give up on winning the fight (thus removing all excitement from the experience) and instead let yourself die so that you can salvage your health points, because they are among the objects you're supposed to collect, and you probably can't get any more of them during the fight. This happens during normal stages too--sometimes a collectible red coin will be waved around just within your reach for a few seconds, only to be carried off because you didn't go for it fast enough. So then you're just stuck playing for completion, rather than for points, which would be fine if the game weren't easy and linear and painfully lacking in interesting secret places for you to reach with your uselessly infinite ability to glide horizontally, but in fact it is all of those things. (The graphics and controls still hold up very well, though. They are excellent! Wickerpedia claims that dudes tried to make this game all pre-rendered because Donkey Kong Country was big then, but then Shigeru Miyamoto just shot them down and went with an awesome cartoonish style with sprite animation that's still impressive--and I'm not talking about the Super FX stuff, although that looked cool too; this game's sprites are just very well done. Way to go Miyamoto!) Also I recently played Ocarina of Time for the first time. It kinda sucked! A game like that needs a neat, precise little tile-world in which any piece of land could conceivably do something or hide something, not a big, dead, expensively-modeled 3D world that's mostly just there to be ridden over (slowly) with your horse, wherein every character or enemy or item has to go through some stupid little 3D animation before you can finish interacting with it. Mario 64 got around this by focusing on the brisk, athletic activity of one character, and making everything a playpen tuned to his abilities, rather than some stupid "world" with towns and a backstory and a commute. Metroid Prime got around it by being astonishingly well-polished. Ocarina of Time does not get around it. Oh god why didn't they let me play the ocarina tunes myself, at my own pace--with barely any more effort, they could have made that a simple little rhythm game, and instead it was a painfully slow cutscene, stuck in there just to punish you for trying to teleport your way around the horse-summoning cutscene and the horse-mounting animation and the horse-drifting-to-a-stop sequence and so forth. And also there's a stupid owl hovering behind you half the time, telling you what to do next just in case you were in danger of having fun trying to figure it out yourself. And also the hit detection is a little off, and I missed the only moderately interesting chain of side quests because just one time when I tried to use an item in front of some lady, I wasn't facing in exactly the right direction so it didn't work, and I went through the rest of the game wondering how I was ever supposed to wake up the sleeping dude in the forest, if waving a frickin rooster in his face and also playing every ocarina tune right next to him wouldn't work (which it didn't). And also there's one of those stupid OCD collection quests in this game too. Also I played the first bit of Grim Fandango. Garbage! I mean I liked the characters and the dialogue, everybody likes those I guess, but other than that it was like a text adventure at one-twentieth speed. Why should I have to painstakingly make my guy climb from one location to another (with the worst controls I've ever encountered in a 3D game) when the puzzle and story would be pretty much the same if I could just type "u" or "w" or whatever and immediately be there? Stupid 3D. Wow, that was a bad run. Oh wait I tried M.U.L.E. too. It was fun! M.U.L.E. wins!

games that stand the test of time, or don't by Sword of Justice 07/10/2010, 1:06pm PDT     mario 64 by Sword of Justice 07/10/2010, 1:16pm PDT         VERDICT MARIO 64 STANDS THE TEST OF TIME NT by Stand the test of time judge 07/10/2010, 1:28pm PDT             I agree with this by Bananadine 07/10/2010, 2:38pm PDT                 I was probably gonna review yoshis island and oot but now I don't need to :D by Sword of Justice 07/10/2010, 3:00pm PDT                     A negative review of OOT has been a long time coming by Vested Id 07/10/2010, 3:06pm PDT                         PSH the sword fighting engine is still excellent by Sword of Justice 07/10/2010, 4:18pm PDT                 Anyone searching for front page content should check out this post. NT by Jerry Whorebach 07/10/2010, 3:07pm PDT     Jumpman, Jumpman Junior NT by mark 07/10/2010, 1:37pm PDT         never heard of this but I'm going to assume that it's not gay by Sword of Justice 07/10/2010, 2:28pm PDT             1983 or something insane. NT by mark 07/11/2010, 6:22pm PDT                 was it that old mac skydiving game where the clouds would slow your descent? NT by Sword of Justice 07/12/2010, 12:21pm PDT                     No, that sounds terrible. NT by mark 07/12/2010, 1:15pm PDT     master of magic by Noi Dau Don 07/10/2010, 1:43pm PDT         never heard of them they sound gay like gay porn NT by Sword of Justice 07/10/2010, 2:22pm PDT     starcontrol2 NT by up with pod people 07/10/2010, 2:52pm PDT         Just in case you were not aware: by Mischief Maker 07/10/2010, 3:21pm PDT             Thanks by Lizard_King 07/11/2010, 7:13am PDT                 Re: Thanks by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/11/2010, 6:58pm PDT                     I'm only halfway through the manual for XCOM by Lizard_King 07/11/2010, 7:48pm PDT                         What happened during your JA2 playthrough? by Eric T. Cheng 07/11/2010, 8:15pm PDT                             Re: What happened during your JA2 playthrough? by Lizard_King 07/12/2010, 7:11am PDT     Herzog Zwei by Fortinbras 07/10/2010, 2:57pm PDT         Sacrifice! by Mischief Maker 07/10/2010, 4:08pm PDT         Vapor Trail was the best shooter ever NT by Fortinbras 07/18/2010, 12:55pm PDT         I just played through this by Bananadine 11/14/2010, 3:18pm PST     Re: games that stand the test of time, or don't by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/10/2010, 4:13pm PDT     River City Ransom (does). ^_^ by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/10/2010, 5:45pm PDT         Speaking of RCR. by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/10/2010, 7:46pm PDT             The ISF technician you hired to calibrate your set should have switched that off NT by You did hire an etc. etc. right?? 07/10/2010, 8:27pm PDT                 imperial space force tv technician who stands aside and watches us install it ou NT by Sword of Justice 07/10/2010, 8:33pm PDT                 Yes then we activated our jet packs and flew to the moon. ^_^ NT by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/10/2010, 8:34pm PDT     Re: games that stand the test of time, or don't by Bradley Svedka. 07/10/2010, 5:47pm PDT         no it isn't NT by Sword of Justice 07/10/2010, 5:52pm PDT             Re: no it isn't by Bradley Svedka. 07/10/2010, 6:37pm PDT                 Psh thanks for the analysis qt3. NT by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/10/2010, 7:40pm PDT                     Re: Psh thanks for the analysis qt3. by Bradley Svedka. 07/10/2010, 8:07pm PDT                         Thanks, enjoy your job at kotaku. ^_^ NT by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/10/2010, 8:35pm PDT                             Re: Thanks, enjoy your job at kotaku. ^_^ by Demon G. Sides 07/10/2010, 9:06pm PDT                                 Looks like we got some people mad at the truth again. 8) by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/10/2010, 9:25pm PDT                                     Re: Looks like we got some people mad at the truth again. 8) by Demon G. Sides 07/11/2010, 12:53am PDT                                         We know you didn't get the kotaku reference, catch up. by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/11/2010, 1:27am PDT                     indeed, this guy should change his name to qt3 analysis NT by Sword of Justice 07/10/2010, 8:34pm PDT                         Twin retards posting hot-seat, qq faggotry. by Bradley Svedka. 07/10/2010, 8:58pm PDT                             try not to fire a shit through your chair oh too late by Sword of Justice 07/10/2010, 9:29pm PDT                             Re: Twin retards posting hot-seat, qq faggotry. by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/10/2010, 9:36pm PDT                                 Re: Twin retards posting hot-seat, qq faggotry. by Bradley Svedka 11/14/2010, 3:20pm PST                                     Not the real me. Remember the period. It can save a life. NT by Bradley Svedka. 11/16/2010, 7:15pm PST                                     Re: Twin retards posting hot-seat, qq faggotry. by Bananadine 11/16/2010, 10:27pm PST                                         Who are the Cables? Wikileak cables? NT by arthur 01/03/2011, 10:57pm PST                                             For more information on Cables, check out by Wikipedia 01/04/2011, 6:54am PST         WROOOOOOOOOONG.gif NT by Last 07/10/2010, 9:16pm PDT     Obvious answer: Tetris by Fullofkittens 07/10/2010, 6:22pm PDT     Half-Life 1 I think also. O_O by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/10/2010, 7:38pm PDT         Re: Half-Life 1 I think also. O_O by Bradley Svedka. 07/10/2010, 8:08pm PDT     Re: games that stand the test of time, or don't by Last 07/10/2010, 9:29pm PDT         If you didn't like Mario 64 the problem is you. NT by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/10/2010, 9:36pm PDT     Heroes of Might and Magic 2 NT by Worm 07/10/2010, 10:00pm PDT         & 3 NT by up with pod people 07/10/2010, 10:26pm PDT             & HoMM 2 The Price of Loyalty, the story was even good enough for Fable 3 NT by to rip off 07/11/2010, 7:51am PDT         Is this worth getting if I've already played 3 to death? NT by Arbit 07/12/2010, 12:46pm PDT     nyatzee sort of validates what I'm saying altho I don't need him round anyhow by Sword of Justice 07/12/2010, 12:54pm PDT     Oh also I played through Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts by Bananadine 07/12/2010, 1:47pm PDT         it wasn't that good and still isn't no by Sword of Justice 09/14/2010, 2:02pm PDT             Woah jsoh coming out against a hard game. NT by who fucking saw it coming? 09/14/2010, 3:20pm PDT     Take No Prisoners by laudablepuss 07/12/2010, 4:40pm PDT     deus ex 1 by Sword of Justice 07/18/2010, 4:48am PDT         Rock, Paper Shotgun has thoughts on the matter by Bananadine 07/18/2010, 8:47am PDT             this was an especially dumb part of the story by Sword of Justice 07/18/2010, 12:14pm PDT                 Re: this was an especially dumb part of the story by Bradley Svedka. 07/19/2010, 11:54pm PDT                     Sounds like Obama to me, does it sound like Obama to you? 8) NT by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/20/2010, 12:07am PDT         Also it had a monomolecular nanosword that made the game 100% easier by Fortinbras 07/18/2010, 8:54am PDT         Re: deus ex 1 by Mischief Maker 07/18/2010, 10:14am PDT             It is probably still best to play first time without cheats. by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/18/2010, 11:29am PDT     misc. old JRPG's by Bananadine 07/18/2010, 9:56am PDT         DS JRPGs by Mischief Maker 07/18/2010, 10:41am PDT     diablo 2 by Sword of Justice 07/19/2010, 11:16am PDT     A smattering of selections across the genres by Willdog 07/20/2010, 8:38pm PDT         On second thought by Willdog 07/21/2010, 6:15pm PDT         Did we forget to mention Fallout 1/2? :( by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/21/2010, 7:07pm PDT             Fallout 1 would never pass muster as Fallout 3 DLC by Jerry Whorebach 06/28/2011, 3:44pm PDT         Watch me fag out for Fallout :( by Jerry Whorebach 07/21/2010, 7:12pm PDT         Covert Action was the 3rd PC game I ever played. I replayed it last March. by Last 07/22/2010, 6:52am PDT             Re: Covert Action was the 3rd PC game I ever played. I replayed it last March. by Willdog 07/23/2010, 9:50pm PDT         mw4 had the best mechlab of the entire series NT by Sword of Justice 07/22/2010, 12:16pm PDT             You mean the McDonalds color-coded-for-retards one? NT by Mischief Maker 07/22/2010, 1:55pm PDT                 I LIKE things to be difficult. Difficult education. Difficult games. NT by Mischief Maker 07/22/2010, 3:21pm PDT                     He's like Einstein. O_O NT by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/22/2010, 5:52pm PDT                 the one where you didn't need to know minutae about non existant metals by Sword of Justice 07/22/2010, 6:07pm PDT                     Better UIs are always worse than bad UIs everyone knows that what are you a RETA NT by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/22/2010, 8:26pm PDT                         What kind of retard wants OPTIONS in their mech customization? by Mischief Maker 07/22/2010, 9:30pm PDT                             Options like for example (blank space) NT by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/22/2010, 11:46pm PDT                             and did you hear, the new prince of persia lets you rewind time how lame by Sword of Justice 07/23/2010, 10:49pm PDT     Planescape? by Cannibal Dave 07/21/2010, 11:51pm PDT     Re: games that stand the test of time, or don't by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/22/2010, 7:25am PDT         spoony mentions that the old ultima games came with story books for the story by Sword of Justice 07/22/2010, 12:15pm PDT             Re: spoony mentions that the old ultima games came with story books by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/27/2010, 1:21pm PDT         If you people would lrn2Jing then you wouldn't have to use fucking imageshack an NT by Fullofkittens 07/22/2010, 1:42pm PDT         There was ONE kindof cool thing about it by laudablepuss 07/22/2010, 4:24pm PDT         Re: games that stand the test of time, or don't by N 08/08/2010, 8:22pm PDT     turok for the n64 by Sword of Justice 07/28/2010, 4:46am PDT         SPOILER: turok farts fire as he runs away at the end NT by grasa cachorro 07/28/2010, 6:57am PDT         I think it plays just as horribly as it did then. NT by mark 07/28/2010, 7:27am PDT             It did suck then but then again it was the best looking FPS. by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/28/2010, 7:58am PDT                 Playing Turok with all the console switches on was the only fun way to play by WITTGENSTEIN 06/28/2011, 4:19pm PDT         Turok 2 with modern computing power is probably great NT by Vested Id 07/28/2010, 10:55pm PDT     homeworld 1 by Sword of Justice 08/06/2010, 3:37pm PDT         Re: homeworld 1 by Jhoh Cause..... 2 08/07/2010, 2:19am PDT     republic commando by Sword of Justice 08/09/2010, 12:29am PDT     Super Mario Bros., surprisingly by Bananadine 10/05/2010, 5:35pm PDT         Super Mario Bros. 2, probably by Bananadine 08/15/2011, 10:02am PDT             Super Mario Bros. 3 by Bananadine 02/25/2012, 9:56am PST                 What part of this game would you say doesn't stand up? by Claborsar 02/25/2012, 12:11pm PST                     yes, you are completely correct, I suppose I blame myself for this situation by sdroa jists 02/25/2012, 12:25pm PST                     Re: What part of this game would you say doesn't stand up? by Bananadine 02/25/2012, 12:39pm PST                         Well we are using objectivity. 8( by Claborsar 02/25/2012, 12:54pm PST                             Re: Well we are using objectivity. 8( by Bananadine 02/25/2012, 1:31pm PST                                 Re: Well we are using objectivity. 8( by Claborsar 02/25/2012, 2:12pm PST                                     stop playing. stop posting. stop breathing. NT by Worm 02/25/2012, 5:16pm PST                                         Hey look, someone who hasn't gone anywhere in the past several years. 8) by Claborsar 02/27/2012, 3:38pm PST                                             hey fuck you NT by Worm 02/27/2012, 7:29pm PST     Spider-Man and Venom: Maximum Carnage by Bananadine 11/14/2010, 3:10pm PST         The Punisher (MAME or Genesis) was a better Marvel Final Fight. Try it today! NT by Last 11/15/2010, 6:10am PST             Is there a special reason why Punisher only uses his gun when faced with guns? by Bananadine 06/28/2011, 2:34pm PDT                 sometimes your punishment is getting shot and other times it's getting beaten NT by Worm 06/28/2011, 6:16pm PDT             Re: The Punisher was a better Marvel Final Fight. Try it today! by Bananadine 07/07/2011, 12:33am PDT                 Well, at least we can all agree on what the WORST Marvel beat 'em up is. by Jerry Whorebach 07/30/2011, 8:03pm PDT         Is that a joke? I watched a speed run, it looked intolerable. by Last 11/16/2010, 9:14pm PST             No, and speed runs can make anything look terrible by Bananadine 11/16/2010, 9:52pm PST     Ecco the Dolphin is giving me motion sickness NT by Bananadine 12/04/2010, 6:29pm PST         I finished this by Bananadine 01/03/2011, 5:27pm PST             meanwhile, ecco on dreamcast was also incredibly hard but at least gorgeous by up with pod people 01/03/2011, 5:36pm PST                 should be "having the piss taken". they didn't take the piss. NT by Ol Chap 01/03/2011, 7:51pm PST