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by Lizard_King 03/22/2010, 9:54pm PDT |
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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
Not saying these are all "great."
Not saying these are all even "good."
And obviously, almost none of them approach the quality of an average novel.
I am saying it's better than fucking Bloodlines, for Christ's sake.
Well, I'll respond selectively because honestly I don't remember most games based on the quality of their writing. And I'm not sure if we are rating individual interactions or overall plot.
I give Bloodlines a solid 7/10 in the former based on what I tried of a standard playthrough and a 9/10 based on what I played of the Malkavian playthrough. I give it no points for overall plot, because I can't remember it but given that it's White Wolf it's got to be awful.
Fallout
?,8/10. Really don't remember. Hubologists seemed very clever when I was 12, probably not so great now.
Wasteland
Ultima 6
No data
Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate II
Really? I found the games mechanically interesting but no more deep than anything the Gold Boxes had offered. I guess the sandboxiness? The party interactions? Some D&D settings give instinctive jaded reactions, and Forgotten Realms is almost all of them in its generic, RA Salvatoreness.
Psychonauts
Portal
Yes. That's a solid 2 I think most can agree with.
Spellcasting 101: Sorcerers Get All The Girls
Ultima 7
Deus Ex
Arena
Crusader: No Remorse
Sam & Max Hit the Road
The Space Bar
No data, at least not that I can recall.
Morrowind
You've got to be kidding. Are you rating on the strength of sheer quantity of writing? There was not a single memorable line or plot related experience in the game that has stayed with me. I spent more time with the building set than the game itself, in the end, and that was worth the price of admission. But simply being nostalgic about it thanks to Oblivion being shit is not enough.
The Circuit's Edge
Shadows Over Riva
Snatcher
Blade Runner
No data
No One Lives Forever
Maybe? I remember having a good time, but my threshold for humor in games was pretty low.
Oblivion
You've got to be shitting me.
Daggerfall
Did not play it until Morrowind released. If you could count the skeleton's scream as a writing achievement, I give it a solid 8/10.
Fallout 3
8/10, 4/10. To Bethesda's credit it's their best writing I've experienced, but everything they did with the main story was not good, no matter how many times Rob Roy ran me through it. In a setting they'd filled with compelling factions and the appearance of important choices...they gave us an empty water chip rehash plot with stupid alternatives, horrible villains, and some great setpieces that I don't think we can pin on the writing.
Grand Theft Auto 4
8/10, 3/10. I need to make lots of money so that when I make lots of money I can keep my job as a thug for hire. I will spice up that occupation with one good bank heist and an endless series of capers designed by people doing an homage to the Batman TV series villains.
Grand Theft Auto 3
This had writing?
Grand Theft Auto Vice City I seem to recall liking it but nothing memorable.
Freedom Force
Star Trek: Judgment Rites
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary
Star Trek: A Final Unity
The Pawn
Guild of Thieves
Knight Orc
Corruption
annnnnnnnnnnnd Jinxter (possibly the best-written game of all-time)
No idea.
Gabriel Knight
?, 8/10. I liked the first one enough to endure the second, and it had some damned fine storytelling despite obstructing it with a shitty sierra item hunt. Don't remember the moment-to-moment.
Who the fuck lets that through? Who the fuck looks at the xml for the script, turned in by some jelly-assed fucking RETARD and says, "Oh, perfect - yeah, you really nailed it, glad we went to a third revision there, whew!" Much like the rest of the game, nobody FUCKING GAVE A SHIT. The building housing the creators of this game was a romper room for malformed, socially-maladjusted troglodytes. The best thing Activision could have done in its corporate history, besides creating the very industry of third-party software, would have been to lock the exits and light the place on fire instead of pay the last milestone.
Maybe these guys can make a strong comeback and merchandise Share Bears or something, though.
(All this being said, it's better than Mass Effect.)
I guess I just remember the good lines more than the bad. I do think the Malkavian playthrough was an interesting experiment in replayability through writing choices, but maybe I was even more deluded in my foolish youth. I really did get a kick out of most of the conversations, and I liked how they reacted to you. I don't recall having faces respond to me like that in a game before that, but I didn't really spend any time with it until a major computer upgrade so maybe there were droves of similar things out at the same time. I hated the gameplay, so it had to be something else, right?
Mostly I'm just glad I didn't have to read yet another post about goddamned Planescape, even if I had to rig the results. |
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The Escapist is still horrible. by Worm 03/14/2010, 4:41pm PDT 
Also Yhatzee explaining how Alone in the Dark(2008) was close to great :( NT by Worm 03/14/2010, 4:43pm PDT
Re: The Escapist is still horrible. by Mr. Copy 03/14/2010, 5:03pm PDT
We're talking about Bloodlines? by FABIO 03/14/2010, 5:39pm PDT
Grim Fandango had AWESOME writing. Also Zork. NT by Fortinbras 03/14/2010, 6:32pm PDT
Also the writing in the Marathon Trilogy was the best part of the game. NT by Fortinbras 03/24/2010, 2:14pm PDT
I'd like to see some of those options as well by Lizard_King 03/22/2010, 5:23pm PDT
You mean solving puzzles isn't gameplay? What? by Worm 03/22/2010, 5:52pm PDT
Re: I'd like to see some of those options as well by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/22/2010, 6:21pm PDT
Re: I'd like to see some of those options as well by Lizard_King 03/22/2010, 9:54pm PDT
YOU NEVER PLAYED DEUS EX??? NT by Mischief Maker 03/22/2010, 11:38pm PDT
He probably read a negative review of it. NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/23/2010, 2:11am PDT
Re: YOU NEVER PLAYED DEUS EX??? by Lizard_King 03/23/2010, 7:34pm PDT
Re: I'd like to see some of those options as well by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/23/2010, 12:19am PDT
PS:T by Entropy Stew 03/23/2010, 1:47am PDT
Re: PS:T by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/23/2010, 2:10am PDT
Be sure to play a mage with +int +wis NT by Entropy Stew 03/23/2010, 7:40am PDT
And CHA+ by Mischief Maker 03/23/2010, 9:48am PDT
Is there a way to make the spells faster? Don't cast them? by Bananadine 03/23/2010, 10:50am PDT
That description could also apply to Fallout, but ok whatever by Wittgenstein 03/23/2010, 3:27pm PDT
Re: PS:T by Entropy Stew 03/23/2010, 8:37am PDT
Actually that's kind of a spoiler and you don't find it out until later :( NT by Worm 03/23/2010, 9:05am PDT
Sorry, bad memory :( by Entropy Stew 03/23/2010, 11:48am PDT
Morte broke my fucking heart >:( NT by Worm 03/23/2010, 12:13pm PDT
Morte approves (+20) *sex scene* NT by Entropy Stew 03/23/2010, 12:14pm PDT
Re: I'd like to see some of those options as well by Fullofkittens 03/23/2010, 6:30am PDT
Re: I'd like to see some of those options as well by Lizard_King 03/23/2010, 7:31pm PDT
ICJ not having actually played Bloodlines might be a factor by FABIO 03/23/2010, 8:39am PDT
Re: ICJ not having actually played Bloodlines might be a factor by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/23/2010, 10:08am PDT
While everyone was masturbating over the release of HL:2 Fabio was being a faggo by Just some guy 03/23/2010, 11:35am PDT
It had one advantage over HL2 by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/23/2010, 12:00pm PDT
Another one who didn't even play the game by FABIO 03/23/2010, 9:26pm PDT
Nobody who worked on Bloodlines is talented enough to do even "emo." by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/24/2010, 2:08pm PDT
Re: Nobody who worked on Bloodlines is talented enough to do even "emo." by FABIO 03/24/2010, 2:44pm PDT
Re: Nobody who worked on Bloodlines is talented enough to do even "emo." by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/24/2010, 3:24pm PDT
ok I'm gonna post that to /tg/ NT by irony 03/24/2010, 4:55pm PDT
front page NT by Entropy Stew 03/25/2010, 8:37am PDT
Guh? Where'd the image go? :( NT by laudablepuss 03/30/2010, 3:00pm PDT
Weird. I'll re-host it. NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/30/2010, 5:34pm PDT
Flavor by Mysterious Stranger 03/23/2010, 9:46am PDT
Oops by motherfuckerfoodeater 03/23/2010, 9:47am PDT
You should say "oops I wrote that" after every one of your posts! NT by guy who hates mffe >:( 03/23/2010, 11:55am PDT
Re: Flavor by Noi Dau Don 03/23/2010, 1:41pm PDT
Lizard_King reads Proust, disappointed game writers don't write like Proust NT by Wittgenstein 03/23/2010, 12:49pm PDT
God forbid Caltrops posters should read books. by motherfuckerfoodeater 03/23/2010, 1:54pm PDT
Do you read books just to talk/brag about how you've read them? NT by Wittgenstein 03/23/2010, 3:25pm PDT
Proust gets garbage dayed in this thread NT by FullOfKittens 03/23/2010, 3:37pm PDT
Re: I'd like to see some of those options as well by Jerry Whorebach 03/23/2010, 4:33pm PDT
Fallout: Unsafe at any weight (for Jerry) NT by Wittgenstein 03/25/2010, 11:51am PDT
ICJ, Please complain about Beyond Zork some more by Bunyip 03/24/2010, 7:24pm PDT
Re: The Escapist is still horrible. by jeep 03/23/2010, 1:54pm PDT
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