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by Choson 01/01/2005, 5:26am PST |
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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
The rash of awful comic-inspired movies is going to have no effect on the world at large, except that eventually we'll stop getting them at all. This would not be the worst thing ever, I'm not particularly worked up about it, but I'll go ahead and say that it would be nice to one day have the option of, say, Watchmen becoming a movie, or Sandman or something. One of them is going to bomb big time -- I know that Daredevil was close to not making any money with its domestic release -- and if I had to guess which one starts killing off projects due to how little it will make it would be FF. I don't know that I'm rooting for Marvel above all else. I think they haven't learned anything from the original FF, Punisher and Captain America movies and I don't know that they really care.
They probably don't, considering Avi Arad and a few of the other Marvel heads cashed out huge when the stock price was still fairly high, after the Spiderman 2 release. And I don't think you really want to see the Watchmen becoming a movie (Sandman? Most overrated comic book ever) given how they butchered the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
But man, sitting through that enormously awful preview followed by the cutting-up-a-sheep short which was attached to every Incredibles presentation... they're giving me exactly what I hated and feared about these cartoons.
I probably don't hate Incredibles as much now as I did when it first came out. I think one's opinions can gain a certain perspective over time, and when I think about it I recall that -- for instance! -- this was the first thing I've ever seen (heard) Craig T. Nelson in where I didn't immediately hate him. What was the name of the first bad guy, Bomb Appetit or something? That was pretty good. But the Incredibles quickly succumbed to that bit that Bobby Slayton does about Going to the Movies: Comedian Bobby says something to the effect of how he hates going to see chick flicks with his girlfriend about relationships and families and so forth because "I have a family. I have a relationship. I do not have monsters eating people under my stairs." The Incredibles dragged on at the beginning in its attempt to show me a guy with a bad job and going-nowhere relationship and Christ, if I were less in control of things in my life I can quite easily get those things! I can't get Frenchie chucking nukes at me from office buildings, and I would like more of that, please.
So that's the attached short and first half of the flick and why I didn't like it.
Ah, so now "The Incredibles is the worst movie ever" becomes "well, the preview and short before the movie sucked, and also if I want to watch a funny show about an office... well, WHY THE FUCK WOULD I, I work in an office!" True, Craig T. Nelson is no Ricky Gervais (and maybe Ricky Gervais is no Ricky Gervais at this point) but maybe the premise of the movie was that, hey, a family of superheroes gone flabby and middle-class is kind of, I dunno, funny? I mean, if Napoleon Dynamite can make white people dancing funny to rap music hilarious, then why can't you find it in your heart to let the Incredibles use irony? The exact reason you've put forth for hating it is the reason it isn't just a Fantastic Four clone or standard-fare superhero movie in animated form.
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
From there we get into the braying jackass of an intentionally annoying character and there was no fucking way the thing built up any sort of quality reserves in me to allow me to laugh along with it. I also knew nothing about the movie going in except that Jason Lee played the bad guy. I had no idea what his character looked like, what powers he'd have, blah blah blah, just that he was in it. And Mr. Incredible, while trying to remember the would-be sidekick's name, calls him "Brodie." I am now officially being punished for having watched Mallrats by having auto-spoilers in the Incredibles. Much like how I don't need to be reminded why comics are stupid, I don't need further abuse for having seen Mallrats a couple times. That was a little thing, and sure -- the revelation of who the villain was is not exactly like stating that Keyser Soze was a ghost all along, but I was in a bad mood and the thing is poking me going, "Eh!? EH?!?! CLEVER AREN'T WE, FANBOY, HA HA HA!"
Hey, man, you got issues. |
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Mr. Fantastic gets punked by Pixar! by Kab(uke) Seme 12/28/2004, 3:12am PST 
I'm sick of Superhero films. by Oom Shnibble 12/28/2004, 5:07am PST 
You sure do like kiddie cartoons. NT by Creexul :( 12/28/2004, 4:01pm PST 
Re: Mr. Fantastic gets punked by Pixar! by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/31/2004, 2:18pm PST 
Re: Mr. Fantastic gets punked by Pixar! by Choson 12/31/2004, 3:13pm PST 
Re: Mr. Fantastic gets punked by Pixar! by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/31/2004, 8:41pm PST 
Way to stick it to Choson in book form! NT by I need clarification 12/31/2004, 8:55pm PST 
Also, I meant "execrable" NT by ICJ's Diamond Notes 12/31/2004, 11:38pm PST 
Re: Mr. Fantastic gets punked by Pixar! by Choson 01/01/2005, 5:26am PST 
Re: Mr. Fantastic gets punked by Pixar! by FABIO 01/01/2005, 6:31pm PST 
Re: Mr. Fantastic gets punked by Pixar! by Creexul :( 01/01/2005, 8:01pm PST 
You hated T2? by WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? 01/01/2005, 8:26pm PST 
aging well is a factor, yes NT by FABIO 01/01/2005, 8:32pm PST 
I didn't say anything about T2. :( NT by Creexul :( 01/01/2005, 9:17pm PST 
INC didn't like T2 either. NT by Mysterio 01/01/2005, 10:54pm PST 
Re: Mr. Fantastic gets punked by Pixar! by FABIO 01/01/2005, 9:49pm PST 
I hate to be this nerdy... by False 01/01/2005, 8:01pm PST 
Re: Mr. Fantastic gets punked by Pixar! by Kab(uke) Seme 12/31/2004, 9:57pm PST 
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