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Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Zsenicorpse 06/11/2006, 1:55pm PDT
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

Bill Dungsroman wrote:

PS this isn't somebody else pretending to be me. ICJ can confirm the proof: I've always thanked him at the end of every email I've ever sent him, and used my real name.


Yes, he was very polite and a pleasure to run a website with. He had not been a fan of the fact that nothing of importance can be discussed on this website for quite some time. I wouldn't expect anything less than braying and cackling that another one bit the dust, but this place is becoming very boring. Not that Zseni, for instance, leaving because one nobody wrote "LEAVE!!!! NT" over and over again wasn't stupid, but the collective loss of everyone adds up. I'm down KThor, Mao, Zseni, 95% of Fussbett, curst, cNo, ceep, Koba and now BDR.

I was hoping that if someone who liked everyone's posts paid the bill and just shut up that nobody would be compelled to leave because, after all, it wasn't the "administrator" telling them to shut the fuck up. This didn't turn out the way I'd hoped.


ICJ


I totally saw this for the first time today!

So anyway every time you make fun of something, you make a new rule. Whole swathes of human behavior become unacceptably gay! Caltrops is all about criticism and making fun of things; we can model Caltrops very well if we think of gayness as a zombie and posting as attacking zombies. Caltrops is a survival horror game with a limited ammo supply, degrading weapons, and infinite zombies. It's a game that rewards wrench-wielding purists like Fussbett and people who can kill zombies just by looking at them real hard, like Creexul, and people who don't mind losing a lot, like Worm. But it's hard on people with shaky aim who blow ammo misfiring (BDR), or keep attempting to play Mario Paint using the Caltrops interface (mrs johnson), or people who are used to playing everything on God Mode (Zseni!) I was always confused that people liked Caltrops but didn't like System Shock 2. I liked Caltrops and SS2, I just wasn't very good at either.

I thought Caltrops should have been easier, but I usually got shot down on that point. Nobody wanted Caltrops to be easier and, worse yet, we kept getting Unreliable Narrator DM's like SB and BDR. BDR may have been very polite, but he's better suited to moderating big forums that are actually about talking. Not viciously intimate PVP affairs like Caltrops, because he's such a huge personal fuckup. You can fly with "huge personal fuckup" if you're on a big board where people are interested in getting along. You don't have to be all there to delete crappy posts and yell at people who get out of line. But you can't fly with it when the (sensitive, committed, polite) board admin is at least as likely to get attacked as anyone else. ICJ, you're a great admin for this place - you keep all your huge personal fuckups offline. We never hear about them. That's perfect.

It could have worked out better if the Fussbett/Creex/INC axis wasn't so assfuckingly dominant and tight. They just whipped everyone! Nobody else could compete! In fact, nobody else was even close! And so the lesser orders did much better playing along with whatever they thought Fussbett, Creex, and INC would like: war stories, porn, trolling, FPS games, liking the right movies and the right music, that sort of thing. It wasn't so much that Fussbett came down on anyone who posted about liking poetry and kittens as that anonymous tards and second-string posters would pre-emptively assign Fussbettian judgement on the post and poster and attack accordingly. Everything would have been cool if, you know, people could just not give a shit about what other people say about them on the internet, but when you've spent years saying things back and forth with these people? Or when they stink of cool kids or get your jokes?

I always thought the best way to level the playing field would be to have a seriously bent administrator - not somebody polite and hands-off, but a raging tyrant, a fantastical abuser of power, like Chet or SB but worse... and fun. Fun to hate, fun to fight, and of course someone who would not actually fucking delete the boards for fun. So that was the idea with Cabaret Voltron. As it turned out, nobody was in the market for things that were crazy and gay - I was shocked. Maybe the problem was that it was Zseni's crazy gayness specifically! That's what I like to think. And of course there was no reason whatsoever for Fussbett, Creex, and INC to post there, where the architecture and subject matter of the forum were designed to work against them, instead of here. And without them I couldn't get anyone else to stick around either.

Posting volume always spiked when Chet or SB was on a rampage, too. I still think the crazy administrator is the best solution to the problem of the Caltrops endgame.

Which is of course where Caltrops is at now: the endgame. Highlander-eque, posters fall away one by one and their powers revert unto Those Who Remain. The ultimate problem is that Creex, Fussbett, and INC aren't going to bitch out each other, but everyone else who could be bitched out is either gone or worthless. There is less and less to talk about at Caltrops and fewer and fewer people to talk about it. I don't think this is actually bad, but it is dull, and especially unnecessary.

But one can't expect Fussbett to start posting sloppy or Creex to stop being Creex. Nobody wants Fussbett to post sloppy or Creex to start acting like an upright young fellow with a future anyway. What is needed is more space for the less excellent and more numerous ranks of posters to do show up and do their thing. In fact, I'd settle for more posters period. At OMM the draw was the content and, as it turns out, Caltrops just isn't producing stuff on that level even if the general quality of posting in the forum is way above any other forum's. So there's a second problem: even with a crazy administrator, how would you get more people to show up?

I don't actually have an answer for that one. Advertising? Providing additional services? There's plenty of in-house talent even if it is split between precious few people - why aren't there Sluggers and Deus Ex office remodelling successors here? A lot of the AIM log stuff just needs a little more cleaning up and editing before it's saleable article content - that's a good schtick all on its own, the only game review site that reviews everything in AIM. I would turn many more posts from the forum into permanent articles, or make the "game reviews in the forum" section more navigable, and possibly add user ratings or something.

Anyways I'm still the best poster ever. I keep telling you this but it's still not sinking in.
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Questions by TAFKAM 08/06/2005, 6:12pm PDT NEW
    Re: Questions by Creexul :( 08/06/2005, 6:21pm PDT NEW
        Mics by Fussbett 08/07/2005, 2:42pm PDT NEW
            Re: Mics by FABIO 08/07/2005, 4:09pm PDT NEW
                Re: Mics by Fussbett 08/07/2005, 9:35pm PDT NEW
            Re: Mics by TAFKAM 08/07/2005, 5:30pm PDT NEW
                Fucking mics. by Bill Dungsroman 08/07/2005, 8:55pm PDT NEW
                    Or don't plug in the headphone jack. NT by Fussbett 08/07/2005, 9:32pm PDT NEW
                        Doesn't work (I tried). NT by Bill Dungsroman 08/08/2005, 1:12pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Fucking mics. by TAFKAM 08/07/2005, 9:47pm PDT NEW
                        speaker + mics by FABIO 08/07/2005, 10:51pm PDT NEW
                            Re: speaker + mics by TAFKAM 08/08/2005, 5:35am PDT NEW
                                Can't you just get one for the neck of your shirt? by Worm 08/08/2005, 6:26am PDT NEW
                                    "lavalier" NT by Fussbett 08/08/2005, 12:51pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: "lavalier" by Worm 08/08/2005, 4:24pm PDT NEW
                            Has that happened to you? by Fussbett 08/08/2005, 8:31am PDT NEW
                                the OTHER possibility by FABIO 08/08/2005, 11:17am PDT NEW
                        Damn, what kind of rig do you have to accomplish that? by bink 08/08/2005, 8:28pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Damn, what kind of rig do you have to accomplish that? by TAFKAM 08/09/2005, 3:17am PDT NEW
                                Had to do it. by TAFKAM 08/13/2005, 7:40pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Had to do it. by FABIO 08/20/2005, 10:53pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: Had to do it. by TAFKAM 08/21/2005, 10:49am PDT NEW
                                            See that fabio? by Andreas 08/21/2005, 11:45am PDT NEW
                                                Re: See that fabio? by Ray of Light 08/21/2005, 12:45pm PDT NEW
                                                    I think I'm going to throw up. by Bill Dungsroman 08/21/2005, 10:55pm PDT NEW
                                                        Does the thought of hard work always have that effect? by Ray of Light 08/22/2005, 12:38am PDT NEW
                                                            Re: Does the thought of hard work always have that effect? by TAFKAM 08/22/2005, 5:08am PDT NEW
                                                                i enjoyed the eyerolling response to anyone questioning his insane habits. by bombMexico 08/22/2005, 5:07pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Re: i enjoyed the eyerolling response to anyone questioning his insane habits. by Ray of Light 08/22/2005, 5:46pm PDT NEW
                                                            I don't quite get your title zinger, you being you and me being me and all. by Bill Dungsroman 08/22/2005, 11:36pm PDT NEW
                                                                I'm also sick of Ray thinking he's clever by I need clarification 08/23/2005, 12:22am PDT NEW
                                                                Why is it important to you to feel you're better than I am? by Ray of Light 08/23/2005, 12:40am PDT NEW
                                                                    I would love to see Bill research a new chair for Ray! by FABIO 08/23/2005, 12:51am PDT NEW
                                                                        I'd love for you to get a fucking life and stop playing video games by Bill Dungsroman 08/23/2005, 1:08am PDT NEW
                                                                            owner of Caltrops is above video games NT by FABIO 08/23/2005, 3:12am PDT NEW
                                                                                One trick pony misses point. NT by go figure. 08/23/2005, 4:51am PDT NEW
                                                                                    anyone else know what this guy is talking about? NT by fabiNO 08/23/2005, 11:05pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Because I....heyyyyy, WAIT JUST A DANG MINUTE! by Bill Dungsroman 08/23/2005, 1:26am PDT NEW
                                                                        Chill, Dungsroman by Ray of Light 08/23/2005, 2:55am PDT NEW
                                                                            Re-heat your arguments, Light. by Bill Dungsroman 08/23/2005, 1:20pm PDT NEW
                                                                                Make it stop by Chillum 08/23/2005, 1:46pm PDT NEW
                                                                                    Re: Make it stop by Bill Dungsroman 08/24/2005, 1:43am PDT NEW
                                                                                        That BDR, I tell you he's UNTROLLABLE. NT by I need clarification 08/24/2005, 6:41pm PDT NEW
                                                                                            Next Tuesday, for one. by Bill Dungsroman 08/24/2005, 7:50pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                Well, guess who wins? (ME) NT by Creexul :( 08/24/2005, 8:22pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    PS: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NT by Creexul :( 08/24/2005, 8:22pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Fuck you. You're shit. NT by Worm 08/24/2005, 10:14pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    No, you don't by motherfuckerfoodeater 08/25/2005, 1:47am PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Re: No, you don't by Creexul :( 08/25/2005, 2:56am PDT NEW
                                                                                                            Hello, rookie by motherfuckerfoodeater 08/25/2005, 3:05am PDT NEW
                                                                                                                Re: Hello, rookie by Creexul :( 08/25/2005, 3:38am PDT NEW
                                                                                                                I could watch MFFE pound his head against this wall all day. by I need clarification 08/25/2005, 8:28am PDT NEW
                                                                                                                    Why? NT by Worm 08/25/2005, 9:08am PDT NEW
                                                                                                                    You're both pathetic and need a new schtick. NT by motherfuckerfoodeater 08/25/2005, 12:08pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                        Wait, are you calling me pathetic? NT by I need clarification 08/25/2005, 12:45pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                            Remember when you used to write posts like this, look at them, and not hit submi NT by yeah, submint Worm 08/25/2005, 1:06pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                                haha like there's a "mint" worm. by I need clarification 08/25/2005, 3:21pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                                    Most predictable forum post of all time. NT by motherfuckerfoodeater 08/25/2005, 3:46pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                                        Okay, I'm going to suggest ICJ disable posting and we can predict everything. by Worm 08/25/2005, 3:54pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                                        I knew SOMEONE would say that, but I only SUSPECTED it would be you. NT by I need clarification 08/25/2005, 9:20pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                What, no poll? NT by Bodybag 08/24/2005, 8:36pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                This looks like a job for ctrl c ctrl v. by Creexul :( 08/24/2005, 9:00pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: This looks like a job for ctrl c ctrl v. by Souffle of Pain 08/24/2005, 9:09pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Re: This looks like a job for ctrl c ctrl v. by Creexul :( 08/24/2005, 10:24pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Tony 08/24/2005, 9:37pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/24/2005, 9:46pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by E. L. Koba 08/25/2005, 12:40am PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Welcome back! NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/25/2005, 12:42am PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Ray of Light 08/25/2005, 1:23am PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Huh, the place sure has gone to shit since I left by tatters 10/06/2005, 11:45pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        That isn't you, because I am you and I've shut up for a long time. by Mysterio 10/07/2005, 10:43pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                            No, I am Spartacus by American Asshole 10/10/2005, 10:00am PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Zsenicorpse 06/11/2006, 1:55pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Temporary solution: William Forsythe's joie de vivre! NT by conflictNo 06/11/2006, 2:49pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                            Or this: Advanced abseiling with Roland Gift! by conflictNo 06/11/2006, 11:30pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/12/2006, 2:19am PDT NEW
                                                                                                            Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Entropy Stew 06/12/2006, 4:54pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                The busses of the world are deeply disappointed. NT by motherfuckerfoodeater 06/13/2006, 12:31am PDT NEW
                                                                                                        I am become death, the destroyer or worlds. by Fussbett 06/12/2006, 3:56am PDT NEW
                                                                                                            CORRECTION by Fussbett 06/12/2006, 4:02am PDT NEW
                                                                                                            Re: I am become death, the destroyer or worlds. by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/12/2006, 3:21pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                he said post a new PICTURE, pal! by Blobbio 06/12/2006, 4:38pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Just this guy who wastes time 08/24/2005, 10:06pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Creexul :( 08/24/2005, 10:26pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                not replying to every single post would have helped :( NT by FABIO 08/24/2005, 11:50pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                Sorry to see you go by Entropy Stew 08/25/2005, 12:32am PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: Sorry to see you go by Motherhead 08/25/2005, 1:55am PDT NEW
                                                                                                Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Motherhead 08/25/2005, 2:12am PDT NEW
                                                                                                Damn by TAFKAM 08/25/2005, 5:18am PDT NEW
                                                                                                Homosayswhat where are you? by laudablepuss 08/25/2005, 12:25pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: Homosayswhat where are you? by I need clarification 08/25/2005, 12:44pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Re: Homosayswhat where are you? by laudablepuss 08/25/2005, 12:50pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                I never liked any of you ANYWAAAAAAY by FABIO 08/25/2005, 12:30pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                I am part of the problem. by Mischief Maker 08/27/2005, 9:33pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Colombian thugs play DDR, which is a strange sight to see. by casual observer 08/31/2005, 10:36am PDT NEW
                                                                                                SPFFFGGHHFF!!! (Spit Take) by mark 08/28/2005, 3:22pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                Bill, this is pathetic. I'm leaving you (in my new car!). NT by Your girlfriend 08/28/2005, 3:56pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    You're not very good at jokes. Perhaps you should submit news stories. NT by Clapstro 08/28/2005, 6:42pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        nice try, Bill. I'm still not coming back to you. vrOOM VROOM! NT by Your girlfriend 08/28/2005, 7:18pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                More people BDR likes by not BDR, but this is totally real. 08/29/2005, 9:15pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: More people BDR likes by Mischief Hata 08/30/2005, 11:14am PDT NEW
                                                                                                        I blame the loss of the balance of power. by casual observer 08/30/2005, 11:42am PDT NEW
                                                                                                            Re: I blame the loss of the balance of power. by Creexul :( 08/30/2005, 11:49am PDT NEW
                                                                                                            Wait, did you just say that Caltrops sucks? Let me write this down... NT by Fussbett 08/30/2005, 5:44pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                Compared to what it used to be? Yes. NT by casual observer 08/30/2005, 6:34pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                                    hey hey heeeeeeeeeey now NT by Rose Glasses 08/30/2005, 8:45pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Oh shit by Rafiki 08/30/2005, 1:16pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Re: Oh shit by Entropy Stew 08/30/2005, 4:32pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                            pffft, my Scanners pic was a much better interpretation NT by Flabio 08/30/2005, 4:55pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: More people BDR likes by bombMexico 08/31/2005, 2:56am PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Re: More people BDR likes by laudablepuss 08/31/2005, 12:25pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                            Re: More people BDR likes by TAFKAM 08/31/2005, 12:36pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        I've been annihilated, apparently. by casual observer 08/31/2005, 1:50pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                I aint buying it by The Office Mysterio 08/29/2005, 9:39pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: I aint buying it by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/29/2005, 9:43pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Parker Brothers 06/06/2006, 5:37pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Choson 06/06/2006, 6:33pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by Creexul :( 06/06/2006, 6:38pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                            My impression of bdr's post. by Creexul :( 06/06/2006, 7:45pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Another awesome BDR zinger by Choson 06/06/2006, 8:08pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                        Break him! NT by Quentin Beck 06/07/2006, 10:29pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                    Re: Next Tuesday, for one. by I need clarification 06/18/2006, 2:57pm PDT NEW
                                                                                                13,000 POSTS BITCHES by Qt3 reporter 12/07/2008, 6:52am PST NEW
                                                                                                the end of an era by Ray of Light 05/23/2017, 8:29am PDT NEW
                                                            Chafing: bane of the sedentary working man by Entropy Stew 08/23/2005, 2:49am PDT NEW
                                            Psh you bought the Doom 3 expansion? NT by Creexul :( 08/21/2005, 12:25pm PDT NEW
                                                fag by FABIO 08/21/2005, 1:53pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: fag by TAFKAM 08/21/2005, 3:05pm PDT NEW
    Re: Questions by FABIO 08/06/2005, 6:33pm PDT NEW
        Re: Questions by FABIO 08/06/2005, 6:37pm PDT NEW
            Re: Questions by TAFKAM 08/06/2005, 7:18pm PDT NEW
                Re: Questions by Creexul :( 08/06/2005, 7:40pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Questions by FABIO 08/06/2005, 7:42pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Questions by TAFKAM 08/06/2005, 11:26pm PDT NEW
 
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