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Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 10:50am PDT
FoK wrote:

I fucking loved them at age 14. That was one of my "learn to play guitar!" albums (along with Nevermind and Facelift.) We can't be held responsible for what we liked when we were young and more hormonally-influenced. If it makes you feel better, there's a nice Sublime-esque tragic edge to the Gin Blossoms in that they fired the guy that wrote all the good songs (Doug Hopkins) for being a drunk. When they got popular he killed himself. Nice!


Hooray! We both suck(ed)!

Barbie: Here's a couple of recommendations... I would have assumed that you already knew these albums, but I know how it is. My wife hasn't heard them either, because I played them to death before I got married and now I don't listen to them anymore, so Veronica may have done the same.


Whoa whoa whoa whoa hey-there, chief. I only listed the albums I *purchased*. This does not mean I didn't have a NIN fanboi period, Marilyn Manson phase, or that Veronica doesn't own literally thousands of CD/tapes/mp3 rips of them.

YOU MUST OWN THE PIXIES' Surfer Rosa and Doolittle. Any greatest hits package is not enough... those two albums are absolutely required of anyone that likes edgy indie rock.


Been there, done them. Pixies rule, duh. Any band with Kim Deal *almost always* rules, and Pixies and Breeders are where she rules the hardest.

Where's Sonic Youth? No Daydream Nation?


Fuck Sonic Youth in the ear. I hate them.

At least one Tom Waits album is required as well, I think you'd like Bone Machine. (Small Change is my next favorite, but in a radically different style.)


OK, I've never heard of Tom Waits. Noted.

Anyone that thinks that Trail of Dead is good needs to go check out the great bands that they allegedly sound like. Specifically, Jawbox's For Your Own Special Sweetheart and more especially Burning Airlines Mission: Control! which is the most kickass rock album of the past ten years and is probably my favorite rock album of all time. (It jousts guitars with Doolittle and they come back from the Renaissance Festival with Black Francis wrapped in guitar string but J. Robbins covered in half-digested refried beans and rice - I guess it's a draw.)


Jawbox, at least, I will check out - as well as Fugazi. Burning Airlines is not one of the bands I've ever heard ToD compared to, but I'll at keep an eye peeled.

Also, Death Cab's evil twin is Dismemberment Plan... for some reason these bands are linked in my head. They use a similar aesthetic to reverse effect - they like to get crazy with the wacky effects, but unlike Death Cab there's no calmness, it's all hysteria. Their best song unfortunately, is only available on pirated mp3 ("Since You Died"), and I don't think anyone would care if you stole it since it's an out-of-print song by an indie band.


I know, I know. Everybody says 'Dismemberment Plan' and somewhere between 'Death Cab' 'ToD' and 'Interpol' they will also shout that I must listen to Modest Mouse. Yes, fine, I get the picture.

GYBE reminds me of Glenn Branca, but it's probably better than him, so that's a possible recommendation if you run out of GYBE to listen to but it can wait.


No, GYBE apparently reminds everybody of Mogwai. To such an extent that, once again, you're the first person to even mention Branca to me.

If you're only going to check out one, get Mission: Control!. I'm so serious.

Fullofkittens

P.S. I'll bet you still haven't checked out Velvet Teen yet, have you? They sound like a more rockified Death Cab - so much so that they got Death Cab's guitarist/producer Chris Walla to produce their album, and they've toured with them.


Egotistical self-jab: isn't Chris Walla the amazingly good-looking one?

--SB
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        All the albums I've bought, in order. The horror . . . the horror. by Senor Barborito 04/16/2003, 10:43pm PDT NEW
            Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by FoK 04/17/2003, 9:53am PDT NEW
                Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 10:50am PDT NEW
                    Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by FoK 04/17/2003, 11:49am PDT NEW
                        Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by RoryleeLuloff 04/17/2003, 12:25pm PDT NEW
                            uroboros? How effete of you. NT by jeep 04/17/2003, 1:57pm PDT NEW
                        Not an ex-Gin Blossoms fan. Some new-ish records are good, too. by jeep 04/17/2003, 2:17pm PDT NEW
                            D-d-dismemberment Plan did WHAT? by Fullofkittens 04/17/2003, 2:25pm PDT NEW
                                The made one more record, "Change," and then they broke up. NT by jeep 04/17/2003, 2:29pm PDT NEW
                                Death Cab has effectively stopped playing together, too, chief. NT by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 2:38pm PDT NEW
                                    Damn! Well, at least Burning Airlines is still together! NT by Fullofkittens 04/17/2003, 3:16pm PDT NEW
                                    Wait, Death Cab for Cutie broke up?! Or are they on sko gay 'hiatus?' Motherfuck NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/17/2003, 3:21pm PDT NEW
                                        There's nothing official, they're just not doing anything together at the moment NT by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 9:06pm PDT NEW
                Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/17/2003, 2:07pm PDT NEW
                    That was the name of the single, yeah. Fuck now I can't get it out of my head. NT by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 2:11pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Also an ex-Gin Blossoms fan (also SB's MUST-HEAR list) by FullofSemen 04/17/2003, 2:16pm PDT NEW
                        My theory, revised. by Fussbett 04/17/2003, 8:31pm PDT NEW
                            All the cars with rear-wheel drive, I've bought, in order . . . by Senor Barborito 04/17/2003, 9:13pm PDT NEW
                                My favourite SB post ever. Funny. NT by Fussbett 04/18/2003, 3:37am PDT NEW
                                I DIDN'T -nt- by Entropy Stew 04/19/2003, 5:36pm PDT NEW
                                    FUCKDAMN THREADS NT by Entropy Stew 04/19/2003, 5:36pm PDT NEW
                                        MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE PROGRAMMED A FILTER THAT MAKES POSTS GO WHERE THEY BELONG NT by creativepig 04/21/2003, 2:17pm PDT NEW
                                            MAYBE I'LL FILTER MY COFFEE THROUGH YOUR MUCOUS FUCKING MEMBRANES, LOVEY NT by Entropy Stew 04/21/2003, 7:59pm PDT NEW
                I HAVE LISTENED TO THE VELVET TEEN, GOD FUCK IT by Alternate789 04/17/2003, 10:03pm PDT NEW
                    ...*blink* by Fullofkittens 04/18/2003, 12:01am PDT NEW
                        A Reply; and also A Special Message to Barbie and GYBE! Fans by creativepig 04/21/2003, 2:31pm PDT NEW
                            Re: A Reply; and also A Special Message to Barbie and GYBE! Fans by Alternate789 04/21/2003, 8:30pm PDT NEW
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                                        Re: Holy fucking GAY, sir. by FoK 04/22/2003, 7:30am PDT NEW
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                                            "Men" like you built the atom bomb. by Senor Barborito 04/22/2003, 11:14am PDT NEW
                                            So, what you're saying is that you sucked intentionally in order to be edgy? NT by Entropy Stew 04/22/2003, 1:10pm PDT NEW
                                                That's what my brother's band did. by Chairman Mao 04/22/2003, 1:14pm PDT NEW
                                                    That's also what the sex pistols did. by MOAB 04/22/2003, 1:31pm PDT NEW
                                                        and Steely Dan by veronica 04/22/2003, 7:28pm PDT NEW
                                                            HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAAAAAAAAHAhahahahaHHAHAHASHAHHAHAHAAHA NT by Entropy Stew 04/22/2003, 9:08pm PDT NEW
                                                                Poor ES, not a Dan fan by veronica 04/22/2003, 10:06pm PDT NEW
                                                                    George Carlin also. by Jhoh Creexul 04/23/2003, 12:49am PDT NEW
                                                No. by Fullofkittens 04/24/2003, 4:53pm PDT NEW
                                        On the contrary, by creativepig 04/23/2003, 9:15pm PDT NEW
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