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Explanation by Senor Barborito 03/16/2003, 4:18pm PST
Little Crow wrote:

...well, actually, the term "Trickster" covers alot of territory. It's not really the same as the Christian's Satan, but it's something similar (no Hell for Injuns, W00T). The first evil spirit, been tormenting man since the beginning, etc. There are entire VOLUMES of stories related to the Trickster, called "cycles." Some of the Trickster cycle shit is hilarious. He usually shapeshifts alot in the pursuit of tricking, which I think we can all agree is a pretty handy skill if you're really into tricking people. Pretty much all the nations have some version, just like every other spiritual camp around the world, I guess. I think that's pretty much the first step after contemplating some form of divinity; you create sko ultimate evil. First comes mastery of fire, then you create God, then you create God's evil twin? Something like that. Oh, wait. People keep telling me there's no such thing as evil. Never mind.

So, yeah, sometimes Trickster = coyote. But I don't think that's what you meant...? *shrug*


LC


I've been reading The Wandering Ones, a comic about post-apocalyptic Native-Americans, but specifically those those of the northwest (don't know the nation). There's a few references within there to Trickster as coyote, but I wasn't sure this was a global Native-American belief, hence my question.

Maybe you'll enjoy it, maybe not. It's done in a Mark Trail/Prince Valiant visual style, so the drawing is certainly up to snuff (although the artist takes intermittent breaks from the main storyline and does a couple weeks of something completely other - be it an Indian legend or an environmental message - where he'll show off his ability to draw significantly better than this style even permits). The story/characters/fiction is nicely pulpy, enough to be fun without decending anywhere near sluggy/Clanbob levels. It's certainly nowhere near as austere as Valiant/Trail, slightly moreso than Errant Story levels (and infinitely more original in concept than said). I like it reasonably well, though I wish he'd ease up just a bit on the somewhat heavy-handed 'haha look at them outwit technology!' that crops up fairly frequently. All in all 7 or 8 out of 10.

--SB
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        You misunderstand by Senor Barborito 03/14/2003, 12:15pm PST NEW
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        Coyote = Trickster, yes? NT NT by Senor Barborito 03/15/2003, 7:26pm PST NEW
            Coyote + Rocket Skates = Wile e. trickster -nt- by Osama Bin Roadrunner 03/15/2003, 8:42pm PST NEW
            Err... by Little Crow 03/16/2003, 3:28pm PST NEW
                Explanation by Senor Barborito 03/16/2003, 4:18pm PST NEW
                    Looks like he was thinking Brunvand...and a plug for Finder. by jeep 03/17/2003, 2:18pm PST NEW
                Re: Err... by The Holy Goat of Power 03/17/2003, 6:33pm PST NEW
 
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