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Fighting Games Zseni Loves by Zseni 02/18/2003, 6:03pm PST
FABIO wrote:

curst wrote:



Mortal Kombat 5 are also really cool games that newbies can just pick up and play much more easily, but VF4 is the most rewarding IMO.


In the 2 hours I spent playing MK5 until I got bored, I got the impression the entire thing was nothing more than just "memorize your character's two best combos and do them over and over and over". Each character only got a tiny handful of special moves and most of them seemed useless. The characters only get ONE fatality each (wtf?) and they're all just rehashes of the boring generic ones: cut off your enemy's head, kiss of death, etc. Where the hell is Lui Kang turning into a dragon and biting the guy in half? The whole thing just felt too slow.

Am I just out of the loop? Are all fighting games these days just simply memorizing the 50+ hit, preprogrammed, arbitray (why does punch + punch + kick work and not punch + kick + punch?) combos and waiting to "fake" your opponent out before unleashing it over and over and over? MK2 was the last fighter I enjoyed and could get into. I tried Soul Calibur but it seemed to be another combo game. Then there was Capcom vs. SNK, which everyone seems to agree is nothing more than button mashing.


I'm only a casual fighting game player, so I like a good balance between "quick to pick up" and "not so quick that someone dumber than me will be as good." I usually beat down the Weaponsmith, my brother beats me down, his AZN best friend beats him down, and the AZN's brother beats down everyone, ruthlessly. Any game that preserves this order is by my default a quality production. Any game that makes sure that eventually even worst of us can manage a 1:2 win to loss ratio against the next highest guy up is a fun production.

X vs. Capcom games, while lots of fun to look at, seldom preserve the pecking order. The AZN's brother still beats everyone but the Weaponsmith has held the field against all comers just by relentlessly turboing all the buttons. On the PS1 the house game was Tekken 3; for the PS2 it looks like DOA 2 Hardcore is going to be the game of choice for a long time to come, or until we get Tekken Tag. But I'm sweet on DOA2H because it's the first fighting game I know that actually has a genuine, legitimate, unmistakeable bishie (Ein, the karate guy) to go with all the hot-ass girls. Plus DOA2H has a tag mode and a team mode, a sparring mode with a dummy opponent that actually fights, and lots of outfits. EEEeeEeeEEEE!

One other thing: although it's not implemented well, although you have to go through the horrible cutscenes in the game, the versus mode on Zone of the Enders is pretty fucking sweet. In general the design on that game is just outstanding - graphics, gameplay, music - but the plot, and especially the VOICE ACTORS are INCREDIBLY HORRIBLE. Warning anime-gay ahead: there's a 13 episode Zone of the Enders anime series, plus an hour-long "movie", and in both of them the pilots are super-duper. One gets drunk on his own power and goes insane, the other is an aging drunken bum who left his wife and kids and is searching for sko salvaltion. Anything that gets the pre-teen boys out of the giant robots and back in the kitchen where they belong is excellent news.

If you like mecha anime at all, both productions are worth checking out. GET 'EM QUICK from user saguliera on the p2p server via www.animefantasia.com - the guy has heroic bandwidth; if you have anything faster than a modem you can get the whole series within a day.
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Shit yeah. by Fok 02/17/2003, 9:59am PST NEW
    Already finished this game twice. NEXT!!!!!!!!!! (nt) by Jhoh Creexul 02/17/2003, 2:50pm PST NEW
    I liked GTA3 better by FABIO 02/17/2003, 10:17pm PST NEW
        Query/Highjack by mark 02/17/2003, 11:01pm PST NEW
            Answer and ANOTHER hijack by Zseni 02/17/2003, 11:36pm PST NEW
                Re: Answer and ANOTHER hijack by FABIO 02/18/2003, 12:35am PST NEW
                    Re: Answer and ANOTHER hijack by first of the fags (FOF) 02/18/2003, 1:49am PST NEW
                        Re: Answer and ANOTHER hijack by Asmo 02/18/2003, 2:53pm PST NEW
                            Gamecube. Actually good? by Fussbett 02/18/2003, 3:36pm PST NEW
                                Re: Gamecube. Actually good? by FABIO 02/18/2003, 5:00pm PST NEW
                Re: Answer and ANOTHER hijack by Damocles 02/22/2003, 3:26pm PST NEW
            CONSOLE WARZ by Fussbett 02/18/2003, 4:45am PST NEW
                Query by First of the fags 02/18/2003, 5:30am PST NEW
                    The answer you want. by Fussbett 02/18/2003, 6:38am PST NEW
                One thing I forgot to mention about the PS2 by FABIO 02/18/2003, 5:58am PST NEW
                    I know a few PS1 owners who's machines died in similar manners -nt- NT by mark 02/18/2003, 11:46am PST NEW
                        Me by Entropy Stew 02/18/2003, 3:58pm PST NEW
                            Re: Me by FABIO 02/18/2003, 5:03pm PST NEW
                            Everyone by bastage 02/19/2003, 5:16pm PST NEW
                Re: CONSOLE WARZ by mark 02/18/2003, 11:26am PST NEW
                    Random PS2 musings by curst 02/18/2003, 12:39pm PST NEW
                        No problem with DVD playback here. (nt) by Zseni 02/18/2003, 12:44pm PST NEW
                            Re: No problem with DVD playback here. (nt) by curst 02/18/2003, 12:51pm PST NEW
                                Re: No problem with DVD playback here. by I work at best buy! 02/18/2003, 1:38pm PST NEW
                                Re: No problem with DVD playback here. (nt) by Two Sheds 02/19/2003, 4:30pm PST NEW
                                    Re: No problem with DVD playback here. (nt) by curst 02/20/2003, 7:59pm PST NEW
                        Re: Random PS2 musings by FABIO 02/18/2003, 5:31pm PST NEW
                            Fighting Games Zseni Loves by Zseni 02/18/2003, 6:03pm PST NEW
                                Re: Fighting Games Zseni Loves by Fussbett 02/18/2003, 6:43pm PST NEW
                                    Re: Fighting Games Zseni Loves by FABIO 02/18/2003, 8:17pm PST NEW
                                        My experience with the MK series by mark 02/18/2003, 8:53pm PST NEW
                                            MK:DV mini review + "What's New?" FAQ by Fussbett 02/18/2003, 11:38pm PST NEW
                                                disagree by FABIO 02/19/2003, 12:28am PST NEW
                                                    The game is only "OK", in a franchise of shit, yes. by Fussbett 02/19/2003, 1:06am PST NEW
                                                MK:DV mini review + "What's New?" FAQ by curst 02/19/2003, 8:34am PST NEW
                                                    Does it still have Scorpion? (NT) by Tom-Foolery Constructor 02/19/2003, 6:02pm PST NEW
                                                        YES. by curst 02/20/2003, 8:50am PST NEW
                                                            Does he use Tai Chi? (NT) by Mischief Maker 02/20/2003, 12:23pm PST NEW
                                                    Re: MK:DV mini review + "What's New?" FAQ by FABIO 02/19/2003, 8:00pm PST NEW
                                                        Re: MK:DV mini review + "What's New?" FAQ by bastage 02/19/2003, 9:35pm PST NEW
                                                            Re: MK:DV mini review + "What's New?" FAQ by FABIO 02/20/2003, 12:54am PST NEW
                                                                Fighting games: the SS2 of genres? (nt) by Zseni 02/20/2003, 10:26am PST NEW
                                                                    except MK2 (nt) NT by FABIO 02/20/2003, 11:08am PST NEW
                                                                Bringing it all to a close. by Fussbett 02/20/2003, 2:24pm PST NEW
                                                                    Re: Bringing it all to a close. by Zseni, very bad at juggling. 02/20/2003, 2:32pm PST NEW
                                                                        Heihachi by Fussbett 02/20/2003, 4:21pm PST NEW
                                                                            Holy fuck, that was beautiful by Entropy Stew 02/20/2003, 5:25pm PST NEW
                                                                                Baek the Leg Fag? by Zseni 02/20/2003, 6:32pm PST NEW
                                                                                    Re: Leg Faggotry by Entropy Stew 02/20/2003, 7:28pm PST NEW
                                                                                        Xaioyu ownz all -nt- NT by El Koba 02/21/2003, 10:41pm PST NEW
                                                                                Re: Holy fuck, that was beautiful by Fussbett 02/20/2003, 9:21pm PST NEW
                                                                                    There is only Shoryuken, Hodoken, and The Rest -nt- by Entropy Stew 02/21/2003, 3:59am PST NEW
                                                                                        Also, Blanka ownz all -nt- by E. L. Koba 02/21/2003, 10:43pm PST NEW
                                                                                            TIGER GENOCIDE, bitchez. by curst 02/22/2003, 8:01pm PST NEW
                                                                                                Re: TIGER GENOCIDE, bitchez. by FABIO 02/23/2003, 1:18am PST NEW
                                                                    Re: Bringing it all to a close. by curst 02/20/2003, 7:39pm PST NEW
                                                                        Duh. I meant 69 TFT combos. Still... !!! by curst 02/20/2003, 7:43pm PST NEW
                                    Re: Fighting Games Zseni Loves by mark 02/18/2003, 8:26pm PST NEW
                                    Because i'm a whore, and proud of it by FOF 02/18/2003, 8:59pm PST NEW
                                        I think even Keanu might be able to spell 'whoa', though -NT- NT by Senor Barborito 02/19/2003, 8:53am PST NEW
                                        Re: Because i'm a whore, and proud of it by bastage 02/19/2003, 6:16pm PST NEW
                                Best Fighter of all time by Mischief Maker 02/18/2003, 10:30pm PST NEW
                                    Re: Best Fighter of all time by Zseni 02/18/2003, 11:28pm PST NEW
                        Re: Ratchet and Clank by Damocles 02/22/2003, 3:42pm PST NEW
                    Re: CONSOLE WARZ by Ice Cream Jonsey 02/18/2003, 2:47pm PST NEW
                        Xbox for Deathrow = no. (NT) by Fussbett 02/18/2003, 3:23pm PST NEW
                            Deathrow worth getting otherwise ..? by bastage 02/19/2003, 5:57pm PST NEW
            Re: Query/Highjack by Bananadine 02/23/2003, 2:35pm PST NEW
 
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