Forum Overview :: Peter Molyneux's The Movies

No it isn't, and you've proved my point. by Mischief Maker 05/04/2023, 6:24am PDT The Fremen are the most boring part of the book. The highlight of the second book is watching the Harkonnens going through a similar crisis to the Atreides in the first half in their own twisted funhouse mirror kind of way. And arguably for all the nobility of the Atreides and sleaziness of the Harkonnens on the surface, the Atreides prove to be the greater evil in the long run. But if the movie Harkonnens are just a bunch of torture monsters who live in a sewer and look like aliens, that whole theme is lost. Where the Atreides depended on propaganda and bravado to draw the best and brightest to their cause, Baron Harkonnen appeals to their baser instincts with drugs and prostitution, but it's in service to the same goals. Just as Duke Leto refused to let Thufir Hawat resign in shame, Baron Harkonnen defied an Imperial order to kill him, both because Hawat was too valuable an asset to waste. Like Paul, Feyd Rautha was a future heir trained from birth to rule, but kept in the dark about the purpose of their training until near adulthood, the difference was Feyd was raised to uphold the status quo and Paul was raised to destroy it violently. The Baron's plan with Feyd was to have his twisted mentat Pieter rule Arrakis viciously for a few years (replacing him with the beast Raban after Pieter died) then have Feyd Rautha supplant them and become a hero to the Arrakeen people by ruling with a comparatively soft touch. And in fact Feyd was allowed to go among the common Harkonnen people, while Paul was keep cloistered and trained to command with Bene Gesserit mind-control techniques. But Leto's plan was always to take the reclusive Fremen, who were content to spend the next several generations slowly terraforming Arrakis, and turn them into a super-Sardaukar and seize the throne by force. Paul did that, and sent them on a bloodly Galaxy-wide crusade that turned him into mega-Hitler. And that's one of the great things about Dune, the Harkonnens being ultimately the lesser evil. But that falls apart if you turn them into inhuman cenobites. Fucking Jodorowsky's Dune, that stoner never even read the novel!

Dune Part 2 trailer by Mischief Maker 05/03/2023, 6:11pm PDT     Whoops, here's the actual trailer: by Mischief Maker 05/03/2023, 6:13pm PDT         I wish I'd seen the first one in theaters, they should rerelease it ahead of thi NT by Fullofkittens 05/04/2023, 11:02am PDT     The Lynch version is fine by you baby 05/04/2023, 2:30am PDT         No it isn't, and you've proved my point. by Mischief Maker 05/04/2023, 6:24am PDT             Those are all good points but by blackwater 05/04/2023, 4:17pm PDT             Peak graduate brain is arguing that one half of a story is superior to a story NT by fully told. 12/13/2023, 7:22pm PST                 Not quite, but good effort! Here's a purple scratch 'n sniff sticker that says, NT by "Grape Job!" 12/13/2023, 7:56pm PST             See this is exactly what everyone means when they tell you to by stop skimming 12/14/2023, 10:55pm PST                 My point's that if you make Harkonens 1D monster men, part 2's just Paul/boring. NT by Mischief's 7-month delayed reaction 12/14/2023, 11:05pm PST                     Pauls enemy is the Emperor. You're whining that the goons are underdeveloped NT by Stop skimming (Dune) 12/15/2023, 8:43pm PST                         Why do I bother explaining when you're fixated above all else on defeating me? NT by MM 12/15/2023, 9:02pm PST                             If you'd stop pretending you're smarter than everyone else by soyfacing over by every new thing maybe we'd listen 12/15/2023, 9:34pm PST                                 You are repeating the complaint I made in my OP right back at me. STOP SKIMMING! NT by Mischief Final Boss 12/15/2023, 10:14pm PST                                 It just needed more low level fight scenes! NT by Feris 12/16/2023, 7:34am PST                 Re: See this is exactly what everyone means when they tell you to by Feris 12/15/2023, 10:04am PST                     I hope MM sees this, Bro NT by you're sure to get laid now! 12/15/2023, 5:21pm PST                         Re: I hope MM sees this, Bro by Feris 12/15/2023, 6:40pm PST                         Everybody wants the Mischief D. NT by MM 12/15/2023, 7:01pm PST                     If he is retarded it's because he's been trolled into retardation NT by So the Cables won? O____O 12/15/2023, 9:18pm PST                         no NT by cable = virgin 12/16/2023, 1:06pm PST         I told you to drop it NT by David "Lynch" 05/04/2023, 12:23pm PDT             I gave you an order. Obey it. NT by Gasoline 05/04/2023, 4:13pm PDT         Lynch was the only director weird enough for Dune NT by Villenueve too conventional 01/17/2025, 3:55pm PST             He was the Goldilocks of weird for it NT by Jodorowsky TOO weird 01/17/2025, 4:43pm PST                 Allegedly his script had a scene with 100 extras defecating simultaneously NT by complete lunatic 01/18/2025, 7:30pm PST     I liked part 1. NT by Yahtzeek 12/13/2023, 1:02pm PST