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Okay, see now here's something we can actually discuss I think! by WITTGENSTEIN 12/04/2014, 9:08am PST
Where does this perogative for creators being required/expected to "show a little social responsibility" come from?

The whole purpose of my entertainment milieu is that it has pretty much abstained from trying to be socially responsible about anything. My movies are full of black men who say motherfucker and nigger incessantly (Tarantino movies), my music says bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks, and my video games, well, not the ones I play (maybe a couple) I can chainsaw a woman in half and watch the entrails of her body parts bounce against the concrete with REALISTIC PHYSICS! And every time, in every genre, someone's stepped up. I asked this to Arbit but I'll put it to you:

Gloria Steinem says I shouldn't read American Psycho even though I am prepared to say it's culturally significant and belongs in the American canon.

Tipper Gore says I shouldn't listen to N.W.A. even though N.W.A. came out of the same sort of atmosphere in the late 1980's that Ferguson, Missouri is right now.

Anita Sarkeesian says I shouldn't play GTA V because.... well let's let her say it.

“GTA V has little room for women except to portray them as strippers, prostitutes, long-suffering wives, humorless girlfriends and goofy, new-age feminists we’re meant to laugh at. Characters constantly spout lines that glorify male sexuality while demeaning women, and the billboards and radio stations of the world reinforce this misogyny, with ads that equate manhood with sleek sports cars while encouraging women to purchase a fragrance that will make them “smell like a bitch.” Yes, these are exaggerations of misogynistic undercurrents in our own society, but not satirical ones. With nothing in the narrative to underscore how insane and wrong this is, all the game does is reinforce and celebrate sexism. The beauty of cruising in the sun-kissed Los Santos hills while listening to “Higher Love” by Steve Winwood turns sour really quick when a voice comes on the radio that talks about using a woman as a urinal.”


What? Every GTA story ends up like Goodfellas. The protagonist is lucky to be walking away from it at the end. GTA V is no different. You get three choices, one of which is basically a bullshit cop-out. The other two are "Kill your friend".

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Roberta Williams: first interactive digital smut peddler by Mr. Kool 12/03/2014, 7:20pm PST NEW
    The two best parts by fabio 12/03/2014, 11:59pm PST NEW
        Let me explain something to you by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 12/04/2014, 12:46am PST NEW
            Re: Let me explain something to you by Mysterios Lollerson 12/04/2014, 6:20am PST NEW
                Ignore this guy, never stop posting new guy by WITTGENSTEIN 12/04/2014, 6:38am PST NEW
                    You should also thank me. NT by Mysterio Lollerson 12/04/2014, 12:03pm PST NEW
                        Why are you Jsoh? by WITTGENSTEIN 12/04/2014, 12:28pm PST NEW
            Fiction created by guys contains stuff that guys like?? NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO by Eurotrash 12/04/2014, 6:32am PST NEW
                Creators bothering to show a little social responsibility? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 12/04/2014, 8:27am PST NEW
                    What about the all the outrage at Other M's story? by Mischief Maker 12/04/2014, 8:52am PST NEW
                        Re: What about the all the outrage at Other M's story? by Cannibal Dave 12/05/2014, 1:06pm PST NEW
                            What fun is earnest discussion? by Worm 12/05/2014, 1:45pm PST NEW
                    You realize you read like a dumb uptight broad who is mad about nothing, right? by Worm 12/04/2014, 8:54am PST NEW
                        I sure hope it's a girl by WITTGENSTEIN 12/04/2014, 8:59am PST NEW
                    Good! I'm glad we understand each other. by Eurotrash 12/04/2014, 9:03am PST NEW
                        POLITICALLY CORRECT?!? by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 12/04/2014, 1:46pm PST NEW
                            All the replies tearing you multiple new assholes, and you desperately latch by Eurotrash 12/04/2014, 3:01pm PST NEW
                                Tearing me a new asshole? Hardly NT by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 12/04/2014, 3:55pm PST NEW
                                    I know you are but what am I? NT by Pee Wee Herman 12/04/2014, 4:17pm PST NEW
                                    Well they would be, if you were able to comprehend logic pertaining to actual by Eurotrash 12/04/2014, 11:51pm PST NEW
                    Okay, see now here's something we can actually discuss I think! by WITTGENSTEIN 12/04/2014, 9:08am PST NEW
                        Re: Okay, see now here's something we can actually discuss I think! by Worm 12/04/2014, 9:42am PST NEW
                            Gears of War 3 multiplayer, also GOW: Judgment maybe? NT by WITTGENSTEIN 12/04/2014, 10:31am PST NEW
                        Re: Okay, see now here's something we can actually discuss I think! by Eurotrash 12/04/2014, 12:07pm PST NEW
                            This is obviously piss-shaming, plain and simple. NT by Fuck you Anita. 12/04/2014, 12:22pm PST NEW
            Keep waggin' that finger you whiny failure. by It's a mystery! 12/04/2014, 8:46am PST NEW
                Be the porn you want to see in the world NT by Entropy Stew 12/04/2014, 8:49am PST NEW
                Google false equivalence and male power fantasy faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag NT by Dave Willis from Shortpacked 12/04/2014, 11:09am PST NEW
                Wow a WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ?!?!? post by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 12/04/2014, 3:58pm PST NEW
                    Do you ever use your penis? NT by Mysterio 12/04/2014, 5:00pm PST NEW
                        I think his penis was last seen getting the same tattoo as seen on Trevor's neck by Eurotrash 12/05/2014, 12:03am PST NEW
                    It's not about being "THE MENZ". by Why would you spell it like that? 12/05/2014, 8:40am PST NEW
                        Sorry if I'm not bowled over by the Nth regurgitation of by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 12/05/2014, 11:46am PST NEW
                            Why are you still spelling it "MENZ"? by Mysterio 12/06/2014, 8:37am PST NEW
                                Way to get hung up on a Z by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 12/06/2014, 9:19am PST NEW
                                    "Let's focus on that instead of anything importnat" by GOOD IDEA 12/06/2014, 10:42am PST NEW
                                        Why don't you go fuck NT by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 12/06/2014, 10:57am PST NEW
                    If it's totally expected, how about answering why it's wrong? NT by blackwater 12/06/2014, 2:31am PST NEW
            Ha ha you're literally fighting for the rights of CARTOON IMAGES by fabio 12/04/2014, 4:28pm PST NEW
                I would love a Sarkeesian review of Night Trap. Or maybe by this guy. NT by WITTGENSTEIN 12/04/2014, 8:08pm PST NEW
                    I would love a whole #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism game review section by Starting with RapeLay 12/05/2014, 8:51am PST NEW
                        This is an amazing idea! by The Happiness Engine 12/05/2014, 5:15pm PST NEW
                WAHHH WE HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE FUN WAAAHHHH by #ItsAboutEthicsinGamingJournalism 12/04/2014, 8:44pm PST NEW
                    I'd be fine for having all my games taken away if it wasn't all crypto-artfags by Worm 12/04/2014, 9:19pm PST NEW
                    Here's another parrot point of yours by fabio 12/04/2014, 10:07pm PST NEW
                    I'm starting to suspect this is ICJ trying to provoke topical content by Eurotrash 12/05/2014, 12:12am PST NEW
                        Nah by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/05/2014, 8:22am PST NEW
                    Bonus feminist safe space inside by fabio 12/06/2014, 12:59am PST NEW
                        Holy shit, I loved that game by Eurotrash 12/06/2014, 10:47am PST NEW
    Re: Roberta Williams: first interactive digital smut peddler by Mr. Kool 12/05/2014, 7:38pm PST NEW
        Old Man Murray, the original internet misogyny by fabio 12/05/2014, 8:02pm PST NEW
    Roberta accepts lifetime achievement award, shrugs by fabio 12/08/2014, 11:17pm PST NEW
        Video game shows are cringeworthy. by Fuck Art 12/09/2014, 6:07am PST NEW
 
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