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Re: plus: I don't think time travel is actually possible. telekinesis, either by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 10/10/2012, 4:01pm PDT
Note: I have not seen the movie Looper, I'm just commenting on the above items.

Telekinesis may be possible although I think the examples of bending spoons has been shown generally to be faked. And there's a big potential for misconduct. A really great movie called The Medusa Touch, starring Richard Burton and Lee Remick, shows what could happen if you get someone with the ability to use his mind to cause things like disasters because he thinks he can play God, or that there is no God and he's decided to take over the job. It's a great movie and I recommend seeing it.

As for time travel, your basic problem is the method to get there. As far as going forward in time, you can slow down time by moving near the speed of light, the only problem is the faster you go the more energy you need until moving one pound of matter requires as much if not more energy than the sun gives out. Very expensive. And you can't go backward.

Now, presuming we figure a way to go backward in time, that has the potential to to trigger paradoxes, if you go back in time can you change the future, and if you do, can you potentially damage your own existence or change the conditions of your existence? And the results may not be controllable, they may be good or bad, and the consideration on whether the results are good or bad depend on who's making the judgement. Going back in time and killing Hitler might be a good idea, but then if Nazi Germany continues, just as nasty, under the remaining leadership and as a result, the U.S. doesn't help out Britain or it delays the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor long enough that the Japanese technical center wasn't destroyed in a military attack, and as a result the Japanese develop the Atomic Bomb - they were working on it at the same time the U.S. and Germany were - and the Japanese target New York and Washington - and maybe the Axis powers win, all because someone killed Hitler and there was no easy target to hate.

There are other questions. Can you prevent yourself from going back in time and thus create a paradox, e.g. if you killed your past self and you disappear, how do you get back to kill yourself if you're not there, and more than that, what does this do for everything you had done from stuff you bought and bills you paid for, children you produced, people you saved from an accident, misery or disaster - that don't get saved - and thus the bad event(s) you would have prevented happens? Maybe things become worse as a result.

Clarence points this out in It's a Wonderful Life after George gets his wish that he'd never been born, since George was never born, ergo his brother died as a child in a drowning accident, so his brother wasn't there to save the men on his navy vessel and they all died. If the past doesn't happen, the paradoxes leave a huge hole.

One answer to this potential paradox is that if you go back in time you go back to an alternate universe that is happening at the exact time you're going to, and anything you do changes that alternate universe, if you return, you return to your own universe and nothing is changed, or you go forward to the time point you left, but you do so in the alternate universe (and if you go back in time again, you go back to a third universe, which is a second alternate, and so on).
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Looper is good by fabio 10/07/2012, 9:46pm PDT NEW
    Really looking forward to it. by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/08/2012, 7:17am PDT NEW
    Re: Looper is good by Hans Clastorp 10/08/2012, 9:35am PDT NEW
        ^spoilers by fabio 10/08/2012, 11:23am PDT NEW
            Re: ^spoilers by Vested Id 10/08/2012, 1:58pm PDT NEW
            also: in the future, time travel is easier than getting rid of a body NT by fabio 10/08/2012, 3:16pm PDT NEW
                plus: I don't think time travel is actually possible. telekinesis, either NT by fabio 10/08/2012, 9:50pm PDT NEW
                    Doppelganger doesn't grasp context, suspension of disbelief NT by fabio 10/09/2012, 12:43pm PDT NEW
                        neither does original fabio. you choose the strangest things to get hung up on. NT by fabio 10/11/2012, 9:41pm PDT NEW
                            Some plot points break believability by fabio 10/12/2012, 5:38pm PDT NEW
                                no one cares about believability on any level in a bond movie, you schmuck by fabio 10/13/2012, 9:46am PDT NEW
                    Re: plus: I don't think time travel is actually possible. telekinesis, either by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 10/10/2012, 4:01pm PDT NEW
                        Even I think you're a sad, pathetic joke of a man by Dr. Franklin Ruehl 10/10/2012, 11:05pm PDT NEW
                        This is why you're Asperger's. NT by *pats your head* 10/11/2012, 5:10am PDT NEW
                            Stop saying I have Asperger's, or else! by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 10/11/2012, 5:52am PDT NEW
                                Re: Stop saying I have Asperger's, or else! by Dr. Franklin Ruehl 10/11/2012, 8:09am PDT NEW
                                    Re: Stop saying I have Asperger's, or else! by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 10/11/2012, 7:14pm PDT NEW
                                        Stop giving in to our caricatures NT by Vested Id 10/11/2012, 7:26pm PDT NEW
                                        You live in a fictional world where the shit you say is clever. NT by it ain't 10/11/2012, 9:24pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: Stop saying I have Asperger's, or else! by Mysterio 10/11/2012, 10:07pm PDT NEW
                                        If God is nice then why does Hell exist? by 50-yr-old autist has breakthrough 10/12/2012, 2:53pm PDT NEW
                            Counterevidence: bad at programming NT by Entropy Stew 10/11/2012, 11:49pm PDT NEW
                                The aspie I know in real life isn't good at anything. He thinks he is NT by but he's really a fucking idiot 10/12/2012, 1:50pm PDT NEW
                                    The one I know is a genius at coming up with new answers to demand from the prof NT by essor 10/12/2012, 3:00pm PDT NEW
    I can't fucking believe this. We both like Minority Report?! NT by Gutsby 10/10/2012, 11:25am PDT NEW
        Who are you? NT by fabio 10/10/2012, 1:20pm PDT NEW
            He's Gutsby! He's like the anti-fabio, he likes everything. NT by I think he might be European? 10/10/2012, 3:26pm PDT NEW
                There are people here rabidly shitting on X-com. I think my crown is lost. NT by fabio 10/12/2012, 5:40pm PDT NEW
    Turns out they made another good movie in 2012 by fabio 12/29/2012, 8:16pm PST NEW
        The Raid: Redemption was released in the US in 2012 by jeep 01/09/2013, 7:10pm PST NEW
    I HATED this! by Gutsby 01/10/2013, 9:44am PST NEW
    Liked it, thought it was even better than Minority Report by Fullofkittens 01/25/2013, 8:09pm PST NEW
        I think Minority Report has the edge by fabio 01/25/2013, 9:34pm PST NEW
            I just really can't stand Tom Cruise, is my main problem with Minority Report by Fullofkittens 01/26/2013, 5:53am PST NEW
                I just really can't stand Tom Cruise, is my main problem with Minority Report by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/26/2013, 9:18am PST NEW
                Re: I just really can't stand Tom Cruise, is my main problem with Minorities by fabio 01/26/2013, 8:27pm PST NEW
 
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