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by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 05/12/2012, 10:29am PDT |
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Horrible Gelatinous Blob wrote:
Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) wrote:
I have some familiarity over this because I remember reading a court case before the California Supreme Court, Mary M. v. City of Los Angeles, 54 Cal.3d 202 (1991), 814 P.2d 1341, 285 Cal. Rptr. 99. Cop pulls over a woman for a traffic offense, and gives her a choice, screw him or go to jail (he wasn't even going to write her a ticket). So she ends up basically with no choice as he rapes her. She sues the city, and gets a judgement for something like $100,000. The judgement was upheld on technical grounds, basically the city's lawyers asked for a bad jury instruction that almost guaranteed they'd find for her, but, then on appeal. they can't then demand the jury's decision be thrown out because they selected a faulty set of instructions.
I know I told you this before, but that's a tort case. Different standard of proof, different rules of evidence, different legislation to guide the decision, different precedent to follow, different social goals to achieve. It's not comparable and trying to apply anything in its holding to a criminal context is dumb.
My apologies, I should have pointed out that he was convicted of rape in a separate criminal prosecution.
So I think it even reinforces my prior statement WRT extortion. He gave her the option: give him sex or be subject to arrest. He's demanding she give him something of value or personal labor in exchange for not being arrested and going to jail. So I think that in this case it's rape because the consent was obtained by force, the force being the commission of a crime. |
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"Consent" when it comes to sex by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 05/07/2012, 11:43pm PDT 
If I'm procrastinating on Caltrops, it must be exam time by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 05/08/2012, 12:15am PDT 
Is it rape, or is it not rape? by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 05/09/2012, 12:10pm PDT 
Wrong. by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 05/09/2012, 11:43pm PDT 
Getting sex by threat of prosecution is extortion (or blackmail in Wyoming) by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 05/12/2012, 10:22am PDT 
I'm done with exams, so I've lost all interest in this now by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 05/12/2012, 1:37pm PDT 
Well, there is a difference here by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 05/12/2012, 3:41pm PDT 
I see you falling into the same trap I did by Entropy Stew 05/12/2012, 5:13pm PDT 
Yeah, but Blob never replied. Tdacors 1, HGB 0 NT by Understatement Man 08/01/2025, 2:39pm PDT 
He was convicted of rape, though by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 05/12/2012, 10:29am PDT 
Also: by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 05/08/2012, 12:19am PDT 
I always told her I was going to enter her AND get inside her..... NT by Buffalo Bill 05/09/2012, 10:15am PDT 
Just remember the rule about when sex is "dirty" by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 05/09/2012, 12:14pm PDT 
I should really be working on my paper. It's due tomorrow. by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 05/09/2012, 11:53pm PDT 
TDARCOS, creepy?! Say it ain't so, Captain Obvious. NT by Eurotrash 05/10/2012, 11:57am PDT 
*The girl, hearing the sound of a motorized scooter, looks fearfully behind her* NT by Whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 05/10/2012, 7:39pm PDT 
HAhahaha oh my god that is hilariously terrifying NT by WITTGENSTEIN 05/13/2012, 10:48am PDT 
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