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Re: FFX to receive HD remake. ("Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn't care about soulbonder by NDD 09/16/2011, 12:14am PDT
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

NDD wrote:

motherfuckerfoodeater wrote:

Kat accurately describes an FFVII HD remake as "the Holy Grail of Final Fantasy fans."


There are a couple of reasonable comments on the article, one of which was like "they'll never do a remake of FF7 because you will complain about literally anything changing." Another one notes that despite this niceguyingly whining that the squeenix bitch ain't putting out just to fuck with him, personally! FF7 fans got multiple spin-offs/sequel/prequel games, an animated miniseries, and a no-expense-spared CGI movie.

The excitable wrath of FF7 fans will please me forever because it is the epitome of nerdrage. It is always state of the art. Star Wars or Star Trek or Evangelion or WoW or Dragonlance or Tolkien - any other kind of lorefag you might name - have nothing on FF7 assholes: the only fandom population to ever consistently get more of what they want in exactly the way they want it, and who bitch more furiously every time it happens.



Have you ever talked about your favorites, post FFVII? I like video game lists, but I'm not sure if you've ever done so. Your opinion is interesting to me, and I never seem to get enough of it these days. :(


ICJ

But I've never played FF7.

It looked boring and overwrought and there was nobody either hot or interesting in it. I played 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 tho. Of these I like 6 the best, but in kind of a guilty-pleasure way.

I like FF8 for freeform grinding. There is a fine meditative art in level grinding and FF8 lets you roll your own ride with many degrees of precision. This is the best FF if you are OCD. It is a graduate-level course in the ways in which play mechanics can be disconnected from game narrative.

I like FF9 because it is the fucking cutest. It's the cutest game. It's just fucking cute as hell. The game mechanics are sound and the magical-renaissance art design took enough of its cues from * of Mana to be charming and melancholy while maintaining a sense of heft and realism. The plot - imperiled princess goes rogue, shounen hero finds self - is cliche as hell but pulled off with affectionate and faultless aplomb here. Some of the characters are a little cartoony but none of them are annoying. If I had to pick a Best Final Fantasy it would probably be 9.

I didn't like FFX but for personal reasons I've played it a number of times. It grows on me with each iteration. (FF13 would take everything bad about FFX and keep it while throwing out everything good.) Some of the CGI is still breathtaking ten years later - this game really has a gorgeously-rendered internal culture. And it's rooted in cultural stereotypes in a way that other FF entries are not: both the effete villain and the kill-yourself-for-the-good-of-the-world heroine read differently depending on the assumptions you bring on board.

I would recommend this FF to the kinds of people who find satisfaction in Star Wars novels - not really a burn, since a lot of the shit that makes the game "cool" happens in offscreen lore. Seymour Guado is the ne plus ultra of FF villains; nobody else comes close in terms of agency, motivation, and methodology. The sidekicks are cooler than the main characters. Wakka-as-voiced-by-Bender is one of the most charming characters in a game ever. This game is easily 200% better if you imagine that Tidus is a cute jock lesbian and Yuna is into girls.

Seriously, try it sometime.

FFX-2: do u leik minigames and collecting.

FFXI: never touched it.

FFXII: Gorgeous, still. The gambit system is still a ton of fun to play with. Despite its technical proficiencies and likable characters, I could never get behind Vayne Solidor as a really compelling bad guy. I wasn't really driven to see what happened next - the whole game was so successful at rendering the feel of a grand epic that, like a grand epic, I found it easy to put down. Never finished it. A good FF for actual lorefags.

FFXIII: oh man. It is SO BEAUTIFUL. SO BEAUTIFUL. And stupid. Tape down the X button and lever the left thumbstick forward, then watch all the cutscenes. The characters are really cool and the plot could have been cool except... you do so little to interact with it, even in terms of improving your team. It's Beautiful Corridors: The Game. And it's getting a sequel in which THE MOST USELESS CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE FIRST GAME is the STAR. Like FFX-2 there will be a whole lot of re-using art assets.

The best thing I can say about it is that the synthesis of "magic" and "technology" as design motifs is done magnificently here - there is always the sense of a complete world informed by these forces. Too bad such a fantastic world was put in the service of such useless play mechanics.
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FFX to receive HD remake. ("Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn't care about soulbonders!") by NDD 09/15/2011, 2:08am PDT NEW
    If there are HD remakes of games you've been putting off playing NT by You might be a grownup 09/15/2011, 2:57am PDT NEW
    Also: worst FF entry in history to get a sequel NT by fabio 09/15/2011, 6:37am PDT NEW
        Didn't it already get a sequel? NT by WITTGENSTEIN 09/15/2011, 4:15pm PDT NEW
    Re: FFX to receive HD remake. ("Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn't care about soulbonder by motherfuckerfoodeater 09/15/2011, 1:17pm PDT NEW
        Re: FFX to receive HD remake. ("Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn't care about soulbonder by NDD 09/15/2011, 1:40pm PDT NEW
            Re: FFX to receive HD remake. ("Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn't care about soulbonder by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/15/2011, 9:48pm PDT NEW
                Re: FFX to receive HD remake. ("Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn't care about soulbonder by NDD 09/16/2011, 12:14am PDT NEW
                    Re: FFX to receive HD remake. ("Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn't care about soulbonder by Mischief Maker 09/16/2011, 10:11am PDT NEW
                        Re: FFX to receive HD remake. ("Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn't care about soulbonder by NDD 09/16/2011, 2:49pm PDT NEW
                            W-W-Witcher!?! NT by Roop 09/16/2011, 3:16pm PDT NEW
                                Re: W-W-Witcher!?! by NDD 09/17/2011, 12:10pm PDT NEW
                                    If you think fetish gear on your Square characters is funny, have you looked by Eurotrash 09/18/2011, 11:15am PDT NEW
                                        Sadly, I remember this as being the best written Square game I've played by Entropy Stew 09/18/2011, 11:57am PDT NEW
                                            Re: Sadly, I remember this as being the best written Square game I've played by fabio 09/18/2011, 6:10pm PDT NEW
                                                That was when I quit playing. NT by WITTGENSTEIN 09/18/2011, 6:13pm PDT NEW
            The problem with FF7 fans is that they want more of a game that is already by Eurotrash 09/16/2011, 1:21am PDT NEW
                Re: The problem with FF7 fans is that they want more of a game that is already by fabio 09/16/2011, 6:29am PDT NEW
                    Re: The problem with FF7 fans is that they want more of a game that is already by Eurotrash 09/17/2011, 11:15am PDT NEW
                I missed out on the FFVII experience. by Jerry Whorebach 09/17/2011, 2:54pm PDT NEW
                Re: The problem with FF7 fans is that they want more of a game that is already by WITTGENSTEIN 09/18/2011, 6:27am PDT NEW
            Re: FFX to receive HD remake. ("Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn't care about soulbonder by Unbitter 09/16/2011, 7:45am PDT NEW
                Re: FFX to receive HD remake. ("Hironobu Sakaguchi doesn't care about soulbonder by NDD 09/16/2011, 2:46pm PDT NEW
                    141 citations! So much important information! NT by motherfuckerfoodeater 09/16/2011, 5:16pm PDT NEW
 
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