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The most pretentious review of Mass Effect 2 you'll probably ever read. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/29/2010, 8:22am PST
http://www.penny-arcade.com/2010/1/29/

Short of a franchise "reboots" years after the fact (along the lines of a Fallout 3) or weird spinoffs (with the disambiguating suffix firmly attached) I've never seen a franchise rejiggered as fundamentally as Mass Effect. Deus Ex: Invisible War might fit the bill, and might even be a profitable avenue of inquiry.

Both games - ME2 and DE2, which are moving us dangerously close to astromech naming conventions - delivered second chapters which sought to "streamline" their gameplay loop, diminishing their mechanical complexity. In the case of the second Deus Ex, this was generally seen as a gruesome affront to thinking creatures and by extention the entire human race. In the case of Mass Effect 2, it's regarded as something between refinement and alchemy. I'm not entirely sure why this is, but I suspect that Mass Effect is benefiting from seven years of retreat from RPG orthodoxy.

There's also the fact that the original Mass Effect didn't wear its mechanical depth especially well, and its depth wasn't especially deep. It had the outward appearance of depth, as a hologram does; tantalizing peeks at hidden contours which never and could never wholly materialize. Another developer - even another team at Bioware itself - might have worked those underpinnings until they manifested broad systemic peaks, but they went exactly the opposite way, trading the genre's customary numerical twiddling for an orderly schedule of player directed unlocks. Firmly demarcated "missions" culminate in Doom style breakdowns of what occurred, what was earned, rendering the epic into discrete meals which offer a progress a la carte.

Outside of the Normandy itself, which is brilliant and real, environments in Mass Effect 2 tend to be a little too designed, too obvious in their purpose - decidedly unlike places in which people might live or work or even be. That doesn't keep the game from being fun, or interesting; this is simply something that is true. I defy anyone to experience the game's introduction, though - especially with a legacy character - and not whirl inwardly, prepared to haul the narrative on your back if necessary, coursing with a terrible momentum.

(CW)TB out.

to smile at terror
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It's 2 discs. O_O NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/26/2010, 12:07pm PST NEW
    fft discs ALSO: steam tried to punk me by up with pod people 01/26/2010, 12:13pm PST NEW
        Amazon hasn't EVEN shipped my collector's edition yet :( NT by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 01/26/2010, 12:21pm PST NEW
            :(((((((((((((((( NT by up with pod people 01/26/2010, 12:29pm PST NEW
        Thanks, also the fucking startup movies. by Lizard_King 01/26/2010, 6:33pm PST NEW
            You newbs bought the PC version, psh no class. 8) NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/26/2010, 9:14pm PST NEW
                I bought both 360 and PC by Lizard_King 01/27/2010, 3:40am PST NEW
        Fuck it, I'll play the Steam version while I wait on Amazon to ship my 360 copy by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 01/27/2010, 5:57pm PST NEW
            PS: It seemed to work without having to make a new account. Still, fuck EA. NT by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 01/27/2010, 6:02pm PST NEW
                EA worked overtime to try to make this game suck in any way they could. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/27/2010, 6:06pm PST NEW
            Was thinking about getting it for the PC. Read your post. by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/30/2010, 9:55pm PST NEW
                You still need the pc version. by Lizard_King 02/06/2010, 10:12pm PST NEW
                    plus, screenshots. NT by up with pod people 02/06/2010, 10:45pm PST NEW
    Holy shit this game is fuckin awesome. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/26/2010, 1:03pm PST NEW
        the pistol is hammerable now, 10 out of 10 (M1 rating is also 10) NT by irony 01/26/2010, 3:17pm PST NEW
    Fixed: Elevators, inventory, tutorials. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/26/2010, 4:37pm PST NEW
        Starring Martin Sheen as the Cigarette Smoking Man NT by Fortinbras 01/26/2010, 5:43pm PST NEW
        tutorials tutorials and armor/clothing customization (with achievement) by irony 01/26/2010, 5:50pm PST NEW
            The Blood-Dragon Armor sucks =( by Fortinbras 01/26/2010, 5:53pm PST NEW
    It might be a little early, but this might be one of the best RPGs ever made. NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/26/2010, 9:14pm PST NEW
        Tali is romanceable. Automatic 10/10 NT by Fortinbras 01/26/2010, 9:24pm PST NEW
            hot black guy and two alien dudes. my cup runneth over. 12/10 NT by up with pod people 01/26/2010, 11:14pm PST NEW
                More good news for pod people by Jerry Whorebach 01/27/2010, 9:16pm PST NEW
                    jan 22: by up with pod people 01/27/2010, 9:34pm PST NEW
                        Great picture, you can't EVEN see his pecs. Psh not that he has any to speak of. NT by Jerry Whorebach 01/27/2010, 9:45pm PST NEW
                        "I protest. I am NOT a merry man!" NT by Last 01/28/2010, 7:08am PST NEW
                            Fun fact: You can headbutt Michael Dorn in Mass Effect 2 NT by Fortinbras 01/28/2010, 4:50pm PST NEW
                        update: momoa just looks like neanderthal white trash. by up with pod people 08/01/2010, 8:19am PDT NEW
                            I just accidentally obliterated your post by Sword of Justice 08/01/2010, 3:42pm PDT NEW
        I hear you get a lot of great stats at the beginning by I'm the Stat Man 01/27/2010, 2:36am PST NEW
    Continuing to kick all sorts of ass up and down in the game. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/27/2010, 5:39am PST NEW
        I punched out that reporter bitch a SECOND time! by Fortinbras 01/27/2010, 7:04am PST NEW
            I punched her out and then said "I wish I had done that the first time" because by irony 01/27/2010, 10:56pm PST NEW
        Anus simulator, yes. NT by It's the Cables, wow! 01/27/2010, 7:42am PST NEW
            These STUPID Cables have made the biggest mistake of their pathetic LIVES! NT by Not Obsessed 01/27/2010, 10:50am PST NEW
                Don't you DARE make fun of my IDOL! NT by Not a sycophant 01/27/2010, 3:05pm PST NEW
                    this is me NOT being obsessed NT by wrom 01/27/2010, 10:57pm PST NEW
                        not obsessed with proving that anyone who isn't nice to us is obsessed NT by irony 01/28/2010, 8:13am PST NEW
                            psh hey obsess much obsesser of obsessions? NT by irony 01/28/2010, 8:14am PST NEW
                                i know you obsess but what do i do? probably obsess never O_o NT by irony 01/28/2010, 8:16am PST NEW
                                    Our enemies always prove our point for us. 8) NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/28/2010, 8:17am PST NEW
                                        obsessapoolza obsessingtor the obsessing robot NT by irony 01/28/2010, 8:18am PST NEW
                                            posting 50 replies under someone elses name hm what word describes that behavior NT by irony 01/29/2010, 5:44am PST NEW
                                                gruman NT by gruman 01/29/2010, 5:46am PST NEW
                                                THIS IS MY NAME.THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT, BUT THIS ONE IS MINE.MY NAME IS MY BEST NT by irony 01/29/2010, 6:17pm PST NEW
                                                    Thanks wrom. NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/29/2010, 6:41pm PST NEW
                                                        THIS IS MY MOVIE REFERENCE.THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT, BUT THIS ONE IS MINE. NT by creexul nodding sagely 01/29/2010, 7:24pm PST NEW
                                    obsess you! mister obsessor obssesington the third of the obsessed clan NT by irony 01/28/2010, 8:17am PST NEW
    I'M COMMANDER SHEPHERD AND THIS IS MY FAVORITE STORE ON THE CITADEL by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/27/2010, 9:59am PST NEW
        I'm not really sure that the new planet-scan activity is an improvement by Fortinbras 01/27/2010, 1:33pm PST NEW
            Re: I'm not really sure that the new planet-scan activity is an improvement by Hans Clastorp 01/27/2010, 2:03pm PST NEW
                Re: I'm not really sure that the new planet-scan activity is an improvement by Fortinbras 01/27/2010, 2:42pm PST NEW
                The fish for the fish tank are at the Citadel in the model ships store. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/27/2010, 3:18pm PST NEW
                    I bought some fish but they died. :( :( :( by Hans Clastorp 01/28/2010, 10:58am PST NEW
                        I changed my mind on the credits thing. by Fortinbras 01/28/2010, 12:03pm PST NEW
                        I got maybe 2 chances to feed my fish and still ended up with 2 tanks of dead fi by irony 01/29/2010, 5:48am PST NEW
                            Re: I got maybe 2 chances to feed my fish and still ended up with 2 tanks of by Fortinbras 01/29/2010, 6:28am PST NEW
                oh pumpkin by up with pod people 01/27/2010, 5:51pm PST NEW
                    I think the only lesbian romance option is Counsellor Redshirt on the bridge? NT by Fortinbras 01/27/2010, 8:33pm PST NEW
                        so claims the wiki. no mangays. NT by up with pod people 01/27/2010, 9:31pm PST NEW
    the secret to prospecting: fire probes at mooltipings by irony 01/27/2010, 11:00pm PST NEW
        Re: the secret to prospecting: fire probes at mooltipings by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/28/2010, 10:19am PST NEW
            PS the best part is that this will save you a lot of time in planet scans. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/28/2010, 10:25am PST NEW
        The fastest way to prospect, full clear a planet. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/28/2010, 4:07pm PST NEW
    Confidential to Rafiki this has BORDERLESS FULL SCREEN MODE NT by Worm 01/28/2010, 11:08am PST NEW
        Infiltrator gets cloak. FUCKING CLOAK. by Fortinbras 01/28/2010, 1:04pm PST NEW
    Make sure to ask Liara why she hates the Shadow Broker so much. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/28/2010, 7:33pm PST NEW
        I did the other one first and then the path was closed!! spoil me pls. NT by up with pod people 01/29/2010, 8:28am PST NEW
            YOU NEED A FEW GRADES IN READING LIKE ME 8) by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/29/2010, 10:16am PST NEW
            You got a Steam ID? I'll let you know. NT by Fortinbras 01/29/2010, 10:59am PST NEW
    The most pretentious review of Mass Effect 2 you'll probably ever read. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/29/2010, 8:22am PST NEW
        Stupid fucking faggot is fucking retarded by Fortinbras 01/29/2010, 10:22am PST NEW
    I got to hug Tali. NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/29/2010, 9:29pm PST NEW
    my femshep is headed towards possible romance with garrus XD NT by irony 01/30/2010, 3:06am PST NEW
        spoiler by up with pod people 01/30/2010, 7:39am PST NEW
            bonus spoiler: Mordin commentary by up with pod people 01/30/2010, 8:32am PST NEW
                I have always felt there should be more talking heads in video games. by Jerry Whorebach 01/30/2010, 9:10am PST NEW
                    Only people with good taste are able to like Mass Effect 2. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/30/2010, 9:22am PST NEW
                        Would you say Mass Effect 2 is the Jsoh of video games? NT by Jerry Whorebach 01/30/2010, 9:28am PST NEW
                            Jerry have you tried it? Trust me you should. by Worm 01/30/2010, 9:53am PST NEW
                                I played the first one, isn't that enough? by Jerry Whorebach 01/30/2010, 10:02pm PST NEW
                                    ME1 already had the best game story of that year, no competition. NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/30/2010, 10:15pm PST NEW
                                        Portal had a much better story. NT by Jerry Whorebach 01/30/2010, 10:30pm PST NEW
                                            portal is a game made by id software by irony 01/30/2010, 10:48pm PST NEW
                                        Re: ME1 already had the best game story of that year, no competition. by This is Chris's Blood 01/30/2010, 10:34pm PST NEW
                                            You have to have good taste to like Mass Effect 1. NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/30/2010, 11:29pm PST NEW
                                                I have ok taste NT by This is Chris's Blood 01/30/2010, 11:45pm PST NEW
                                                    You faggots may be absolutely right (counting his money) NT by James Cameron, Bioware consultant 01/31/2010, 12:31am PST NEW
                                                        Well thank you for that report, gentlemen. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/31/2010, 12:33am PST NEW
                                                        yea who cares about creating a worthwhile thoughtful experience let's just make NT by irony 01/31/2010, 12:33am PST NEW
                                    psh moar like erectile dysfunction force haha wait you're fighting giant ants? by irony 01/30/2010, 10:47pm PST NEW
                            It's more like the Goodfellas of video games. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/30/2010, 9:54am PST NEW
                                Re: It's more like the Goodfellas of video games. by I'm the Stat Man 01/31/2010, 4:33am PST NEW
                                    I would say college level at least. NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/31/2010, 8:34am PST NEW
                                You said aptitude when you meant to say appreciation. NT by Last 01/31/2010, 8:48am PST NEW
                                    No it's aptitude, go ahead and look it up in the dictionary. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/31/2010, 9:09am PST NEW
                                        Dictionary referencing on a graduate student level NT by James Cameron, Bioware consultant 02/02/2010, 10:32am PST NEW
                                            Yeah put that in your mouth and suck it. 8) NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 02/02/2010, 2:06pm PST NEW
                    Kill yourself, please. NT by discuss. 01/30/2010, 11:34am PST NEW
                        gruman NT by gruman 01/30/2010, 12:17pm PST NEW
                            gruman? NT by gruman 01/30/2010, 8:42pm PST NEW
                            Not you too, gruman! At least Charity Man still wants me alive (out of charity). NT by Jerry Whorebach 01/30/2010, 10:04pm PST NEW
                        we have wromsign the likes of which even god has never seen NT by irony 01/30/2010, 10:44pm PST NEW
            Wow she looks a lot like my Femshep, but mine has a sharper face. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 01/30/2010, 9:15am PST NEW
            garrus is special he ain't just a cheap fuck let's do this right you are so spec NT by irony 01/30/2010, 10:43pm PST NEW
    I think it's worth noting by Mysterious Stranger 08/04/2010, 10:07am PDT NEW
        That would be a really good observation. ^_^ by Jhoh Cause..... 2 08/04/2010, 5:59pm PDT NEW
 
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