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Let's not be hasty here by Lizard_King 07/27/2009, 6:57am PDT
This movie seems to have carefully combined limited release status with the average critic's lack of war experience in order to be very appealing to a lot of people. I'm not just referring to Qt3, here, but also to reviewers and friends of mine who insisted that I simply MUST see this film. It is visually impressive and has a number of well crafted moments, as wrom might say, but it lacks any sort of coherence to tie it all together. Why?

-Because it's billed by its fans and (with a lighter touch) by its makers as realistic. That should fall apart for most people during the sniper sequence that was clearly imported from a movie where the main characters were, you know, snipers. And by the time Renner decides it's time to make this film Death Wish by carjacking Iraqis, followed by the wholly unnecessary 3 man clearing of an entire Iraqi neighborhood (LET'S SPLIT UP THAT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT REALLY RESOLVES THE CORE TACTICAL ISSUES HERE), well, I don't know what to say if that seems plausible.

-Because half of it is a moderately competent Speed-like bomb escalation movie, and the other half a terrible action movie. So it's not even going to stick to doing one thing poorly, it's got to multitask.

-The above invalidates its value as a character study. Why? Because someone in that situation may act that way, I certainly don't know. And maybe we can just pretend that the countless disciplinary proceedings that should have followed each and every one of their missions were simply cut out of the film for the sake of brevity. But you are left with two choices for the motivations of the filmmaker and scriptwriter (also the guy from Valley of Elah): either they are not interested in being realistic and simply shoehorned an action movie into a current setting, or they were trying to be realistic and were simply incompetent about it. Either choice makes it very difficult to take the characters seriously, as no matter what they are just some scriptwriter's wet dream. That's a shame, as I think there's a lot of good material there.

For instance, one of the two team leaders in my squad in my first deployment was crippled in an IED blast, losing a good part of his hip, ass, and thigh. In his early 20's and crippled with horrible pain, he became dependent on the drugs the military gave him but disliked being so detached from reality. He fell back on old habits and decided that marijuana provided him with manageable pain and the ability to function. The military was a hair away from classifying him as a junkie and disqualifying him from his benefits, so in a fit of his regularly recurring cycles of depression (largely caused by being unable to connect with anyone around him) he drove away (in the midst of a Call of Duty 4 session, no less) and crawled into an underground drainage pipe and starved to death. I doubt his family would want that made into a movie, but who knows. The point is there are real stories that any veteran could have connected them to of people who have struggled with the consequences of their military service, and that grounding would have given them a lot more credibility than what they actually did, which was pull the whole thing out of their collective ass.

So maybe there's more to the Creexul breath of fresh air, and there's no point to trying to convince someone that they didn't enjoy something when clearly they did. But maybe there's room to reevaluate what it is that is so appealing to so many.
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Hurt Locker is a fucking travesty by Lizard_King 07/26/2009, 8:30pm PDT NEW
    You Creexul boys really fucked up on this one. by QuĂ©tinbec 07/27/2009, 5:03am PDT NEW
        Don't forget John Nolte. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/27/2009, 5:05am PDT NEW
        the movie is entertaining and a breath of fresh air from hollywood by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/27/2009, 5:35am PDT NEW
            Re: the movie is entertaining and a breath of fresh air from hollywood by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/27/2009, 5:53am PDT NEW
                Hooray for pidgeon holes! No need to talk anymore. Lock all threads, delete NT by laudablepuss 07/27/2009, 10:36am PDT NEW
                To be fair to me, it's about time some movie took it to those McDonald's guys! by Fussbett 07/27/2009, 3:49pm PDT NEW
            halitosis NT by gruman 07/27/2009, 8:39am PDT NEW
            Don't digg yourselves any deeper into the asshole of this movie. by QuĂ©tinbec 07/27/2009, 4:03pm PDT NEW
                Re: Don't digg yourselves any deeper into the asshole of this movie. by 2008 QT3 IRC LOG 07/31/2009, 12:51am PDT NEW
                    Welp it's hard to disagree about the Gene Simmons thing. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/31/2009, 1:10am PDT NEW
                    Awesome totally worthwhile programming on the History Channel: by laudablepuss 07/31/2009, 4:02pm PDT NEW
                        I miss Tales of the Gun. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 08/01/2009, 3:23am PDT NEW
        Let's not be hasty here by Lizard_King 07/27/2009, 6:57am PDT NEW
            The Cables liked it because they thought it was an anti-liberal take on war NT by Because they're stupid 07/27/2009, 10:35am PDT NEW
                Did they really even like it? NT by The Caltrops baiters 07/27/2009, 2:56pm PDT NEW
            The critics can't get enough of it. by Fussbett 07/27/2009, 4:02pm PDT NEW
                It wasn't anything like Crash. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/27/2009, 4:22pm PDT NEW
                    Oh, I thought it was exactly the same as Crash. NT by Fussbett 07/27/2009, 4:26pm PDT NEW
                        That's because you're a jagoff. 8( by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/27/2009, 4:31pm PDT NEW
    Bigelow on Colbert Report by Lizard_King 07/31/2009, 11:08am PDT NEW
        "Colbert Nation." :( by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/31/2009, 11:31am PDT NEW
            Colbert caught John Stewart disease a long time ago by FABIO 07/31/2009, 11:40am PDT NEW
                Psh nice show and I mean that sarcastically. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/31/2009, 11:50am PDT NEW
                Re: Colbert caught John Stewart disease a long time ago by Lizard_King 07/31/2009, 5:50pm PDT NEW
                    L. Ron Hubbard Syndrome? NT by FABIO 08/03/2009, 10:47pm PDT NEW
            unwatchably gay NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/31/2009, 2:22pm PDT NEW
        Holy shit, she's 58? NT by Entropy Stew 08/03/2009, 5:31pm PDT NEW
            Would NT by E.L. Koba 08/03/2009, 11:30pm PDT NEW
 
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