Forum Overview :: Rants :: NO, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER!!! --the old guy in that one Tom Cruise movie

[quote name="Jerry Whorebach"][quote name="Zseni!"][quote name="The Holy Goat of Power"]No you don't. Sadism and Masochism take several forms, many of which do not involve the infliction of pain. The underlying issue behind them is the issue of control. Inflicting pain (or submitting to it) are but extreme examples of a controlling relationship.[/quote] Even if we accept your s&m = control equation, the equals sign in there doesn't work like the equals sign you learned about in addition - control doesn't necessarily = s&m. What you're saying is that there's no difference between cops arresting criminals and cops arresting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Padilla_%28prisoner%29">just any ol' person they feel like arresting</a>: BOTH GROUPS OF COPS WANT TO WHIP EACH OTHER AND ORGASM.[/quote] I think what he's suggesting, <i>and correct me if I'm wrong,</i> is that both cops may be motivated by similar impulses. How they choose to go about satisfying those impulses is what separates the Jedi from the... jesus, what's the nerdagory I'm looking for here... Romulans, I guess. It's like how I get all excited watching OO-RAH manly man marines blast the shit out of a crowd of darkies in <i>Rules of Engagement</i> ("waste the motherfuckers!!!" --Sam Jackson, "but there are rules... of engagement!!!" --Guy Pearce) but at the same time I can identify with the poor motherfucking sand niggers just enough to actively oppose Canadian military involvement in Afghanistan. I think Keanu Reaves said it best in <i>The Matrix</i> when he moved so fast that it looked like everybody else was in slow motion and he was inside a computer and outside there was robot octopuses and dirty shirts. *corncob pipe*[/quote]