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Jack Thompson's Fake $10,000 Charity Challenge
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You make lots of good points! Except the ones about guns, of course.
[quote name="Jerry Whorebach"]This possibly comes back to me not finishing highschool, but I don't have a fucking clue what most of that last post had to do with gun ownership. At least Ray's point - that the only things standing between the PTB's cameras and his private thoughts are cold steel and hot lead - makes sense if he's Bruce Willis in <i>Mercury Rising</i> (which, to be fair, he could be). I can't imagine how many Jerry Bruckheimers it would take to realize your vision of a world in which our commitment to noble ideals springs from the man-killing products that we buy. I think somewhere near the beginning you said that lots of people want to kill themselves but worry about being misunderstood. Like, maybe CSI would assume their death was just an accident when in fact it was meant as an affirmation of their personal commitment to social responsibility or affirmative action or whatever. That's less an argument for guns than it is for suicide notes. Then you said that ethnic diversity leads to anarchy. I suspect this makes you a closet anti-semite, even though I can't prove it because you didn't come right out and specify which ethnicity is to blame (Jews). Oh, and somewhere between these last two points you reminded me how many chances Saddam had to comply with UN Resolutions - not ones about the destruction of Israel, real ones - and how his failure made it legal for the UN to declare war on terror. This proved something about my commitment (or lack thereof?) to ideals like LAW and JUSTICE and such that flew right over my head. Okay, then you started talking about Hitler and Stalin and at first you made them sound really great, like they were solving problems and stuff. Then you dropped the hammer and I was like, maybe they weren't so great after all? I must say that noticing words like "protocols" and "bureaucracies" as I skimmed these paragraphs really made my blood boil. I get enough of those at the DMV, am I right? Finally you got to what looked like the meat of your argument: owning a gun is a good way of demonstrating personal responsibility, because if you aren't responsible enough you could end up hurting yourself or someone else. Also usury is good for the same reason. Topping it all off was the suggestion that guns are exactly the same as cars, booze and crystal meth, the only difference being that those products have uses which don't involve making things bleed from a distance. I think that about covers it, so here are my responses: [quote]You could try to make it work by taking the guns out of the picture, but it's not like you're going to take them away from the cops or the military, right?[/quote] I support disarmament across the board. I don't need armed agents of the state patrolling my streets any more than I need armed yahoos fingering their Glocks when I pass them in a dark alleyway, especially when they're the same people. Nor do I require a nuclear deterrent to stop me from marching on Stalingrad, or feel especially comforted by the knowledge that should Putin push the button, someone else would respond in kind. [quote]To take on the case of VTech directly: the cops and laws we already had weren't enough to stop a single shooter at Virginia Tech![/quote] Maybe you need different laws?[/quote]