Forum Overview :: Rants :: "Hey, can someone re-up the Ayumi Hamasaki? Thanks."

[quote name="Fussbett"][quote][quote]The 20-week-old torrent is BT's weakness as a swarming protocol, and it's why eJackasses still exist, to fill that gap. <font color="yellow">The only way around old torrents is to have the thriving community</font> where you can rely on communication and reseeds, as you mentioned. That's purely extracurricular icing on the cake and shouldn't be an expectation of BT. It's also only viable in the MP3 world, as in certain communities it's impractical to reseed old torrents, like in the case with 3 gig RARed ISOs or current TV shows. No one's keeping around RARs or episode 4 of Joey for archival purposes.[/quote] The longest-lasting torrents at ThePPN, kept seeded since their creation, were 4 GB of Ayumi Hamasaki mp3s split into subsections. When the tracker went down, they were over a year and a half old. Is that just mp3? Is it impractically large? Yes to both! <a href="http://www.boxtorrents.com/details.php?id=1">Or this year-old torrent</a> at Boxtorrents - Sailor Moon Classic in .rm format. If you're looking for impractically large, <a href="http://www.boxtorrents.com/details.php?id=28">the 11 GB Gundam Wing one isn't much younger.</a> [/quote] "The only way around old torrents is to have the thriving community" -- Fussbett. I don't think you'll ever appreciate that you hang out with crazy fanatics and your experiences are not even close to the rule. [quote]I don't expect this sort of thing from every site, or every torrent, but I think you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater if you say that torrent longevity shouldn't be a concern. I maintain that it's just good manners to seed to a 1:1 ratio and hit-and-runners are being rude and thoughtless. [/quote] You're invited to still have good manners in my BitTorrent utopia of no rules. You and the other obsessive compulsives can talk on the forums and keep old torrents alive for years. Go ahead, as my plan is all inclusive. However, manufacturing longevity leads to all the complaints in this entire thread, you fuming and storming off Oink forever, waiting periods, ratios, bannings, dickhead moderators and Empornium telling people not to seed. Making BT do what is unintended produces more headaches than it solves. This is my central argument. [quote]I say you're being too permissive and short-sighted. "The maximum number of people" is a puzzling and contextless figure. Furthermore, the idea that routine leechers would then upload a redundant torrent and seed it is a little shaky. Your system of ethics here might work if it were shared by everyone, but it's not shared by everyone.[/quote] As you can see from my poker post, one thing I know is odds, and I enjoy playing them (the odds). "Maximum number of people" is the goal of a torrent site, is it not? The goal is to give each file to the largest number of people. That's the success condition. My way gets it done fast, ratios and gay sites stretch it out for a long time under the guise of being good for the community. I know it's hard to put faith in leechers re-upping a requested torrent, but the theory is that by casting the widest net, you're bettering the odds of that file living on. With a large enough pool, anything is possible. It sounds crazy, but it happened on SuprNova all the time. [quote][quote]Sites discourage peers both through mandates and by accident. There was a site I registered for to get the Brown Bunny. It was a site specializing in art films and music. E-mail registration of course, lots to read, everything to slow me down -- including banning ports 6881-6889 (psh, <i>common</i> ports). Finally I got to the torrents and see 1 seed and 1 leecher on the 2-day-old Brown Bunny. Why doesn't the seed just e-mail the file instead?[/quote] HAHAHA YOU WANTED TO GET THE BROWN BUNNY. Don't give me any shit about you getting it just for the porn. [/quote] You don't want to see the Brown Bunny? Why? A Vincent Gallo ode-to-self, derided as the worst movie ever, sparking a feud between Ebert and Gallo that gave Ebert cancer, re-edited to then get a thumbs-up from Ebert. That's interesting. Not as interesting as anime, I know, but still pretty interesting. [quote]Anyway Brown Bunny sucks, art film trackers are purely gay, but just yesterday I jumped on a formerly dead torrent that someone wanted to reseed, one seed, one peer, I downloaded it at 100 k/s. Why am I supposed to complain about this? Thank you seed! Thank you peer! It was for a server you had to register for and one with delays on torrents for bad ratios. Yes, registrations are gay, but I do feel they engender community for many small trackers, and the community can then support old torrents like the one I grabbed.[/quote] Your anecdote and mine smash into each other in the super collider, and everyone is killed, nothing proven.[/quote]