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Chinese car company builds first home-plug-in car. by Fussbett 12/18/2008, 2:23am PST
http://www.forbes.com/markets/economy/2008/12/15/byd-hybrid-car-markets-equity-cx_twdd_1215markets04.html

Times are tough for automakers, but fast-rising Chinese company BYD, which stands for Build Your Dream, dreams big in the electric car market. BYD, partially-owned by billionaire investor Warren Buffett, beat Japanese and U.S. automakers to release the first plug-in hybrid car in China. If it fulfills its promises, the cheaper car may have a good chance against Toyota Motor's Prius in the urban Chinese market.

BYD's F3DM model operates in either full electric or gas-electric modes, and contains an electric battery that can be charged at a regular plug or at a recharging station. It can travel up to 100 kilometers (62 miles) solely on battery power, and contains a back-up gas engine, BYD said on Monday. Drivers alternate between the two power modes by flipping a switch: the electric mode is optimal for city driving, as gas engines are more wasteful under constant acceleration and deceleration, and the gas-electric mode is more appropriate for travel on highways and outside of cities.


Can the auto bailout money just go to these guys instead? Or give it to Warren Buffett at least, if you want to keep it American.

I love that unlike the elegant engineering of the Prius, the Chinese solution was to make two engines. One gas, one electric. Oh hey, it's nearly half the price of the Prius too! Imagine that.

I'd also love to see a GM/Ford reaction to this car. First they could explain why it's physically impossible due to the laws of physics (citing the "squirrelliness" of electricity), and then once they discover that it already exists (like so much small car market they long suspected was just a myth) reasons why it can't be done in America. Cost, unions, demand and the Patriot Act probably all play a role. Or maybe it's just that Chinese electricity is simply different than the American counterpart (less squirrelly). While I'm wishing, it would also be cool if the CEOs were hung for treason too.
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Chinese car company builds first home-plug-in car. by Fussbett 12/18/2008, 2:23am PST NEW
    It's made by chinese babies, probably infringes tons of patents and copyrights, NT by and good luck with impact testing 12/18/2008, 7:49am PST NEW
        Those sound like insumountable obstacles! Now I understand. Naptime yet? by Fussbett 12/18/2008, 8:11am PST NEW
            Detroit brain damage has nothing to do with China's cost advantages in manufactu by Entropy Stew 12/18/2008, 8:18am PST NEW
                China vs. America by Fussbett 12/18/2008, 11:20am PST NEW
                    Not mentioned in that Wikipedia article: Tesla Motors is bankrupt. NT by Fortinbras 12/18/2008, 1:36pm PST NEW
                        Re: Not mentioned in that Wikipedia article: Tesla Motors is bankrupt. by I need clarification 12/18/2008, 1:48pm PST NEW
                            Re: Not mentioned in that Wikipedia article: Tesla Motors is bankrupt. by Fortinbras 12/18/2008, 2:02pm PST NEW
                                Who would have guessed something named after Tesla would end up penniless NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/18/2008, 2:08pm PST NEW
                                So you're saying a cheap (Chinese) plug-in hybrid just might sell? NT by I need clarification 12/18/2008, 3:33pm PST NEW
                                    Thanks to the Chinese Assault Rifle in FO3, I'm willing to buy Chinese again NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/18/2008, 5:39pm PST NEW
                                        This + Weyoun + serious car talk = front pageable thread NT by Zsenitan 12/18/2008, 5:42pm PST NEW
                                            I was pid=93446 Weyon, and I think I repeated that joke (sorry, Jsoh)(sorry ever NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/18/2008, 7:03pm PST NEW
                                            Weyoun from DS9? NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 12/18/2008, 7:11pm PST NEW
                            Expensive, also brittle by McMoo 12/19/2008, 1:55pm PST NEW
                                Look I'm a HUGE FUCKING BORE by McMoo 12/19/2008, 2:27pm PST NEW
                                Who are these shoddy Tesla cars made by anyway? The Chinese?! NT by Fussbett 12/19/2008, 10:46pm PST NEW
                        A car company going bankrupt?! Whaaaaaaaa?! NT by Fussbett 12/19/2008, 11:02am PST NEW
                    I had a big reply and closed the browser by Entropy Stew 12/18/2008, 3:04pm PST NEW
                        Who are these shoddy browsers made by anyway? The Chinese?! NT by Fussbett 12/19/2008, 10:45pm PST NEW
                    So how are things doing in CURRENT YEAR anyway? NT by Tesla suspends Model 3 production 04/17/2018, 2:51pm PDT NEW
    I'm skeptical of Chinese automobile engineering by Rafiki 12/18/2008, 9:55am PST NEW
        Re: I'm skeptical of Chinese automobile engineering by Fussbett 12/18/2008, 10:01am PST NEW
            Well I'd like to be able to DRIVE it by Rafiki 12/18/2008, 6:46pm PST NEW
        All the best cars from the '70s and earlier are dangerously unsafe. by Jerry Whorebach 12/18/2008, 10:03am PST NEW
            "Dangerously unsafe." by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/18/2008, 10:18am PST NEW
            in this case, it will be a shoddy car with shit horsepower AND unsafe NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 12/18/2008, 10:24am PST NEW
        Re: I'm skeptical of Chinese automobile engineering by bombMexico 12/18/2008, 6:02pm PST NEW
            100% analog steering! by Entropy Stew 12/18/2008, 7:17pm PST NEW
        Wow that fourth video. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 12/18/2008, 7:16pm PST NEW
        there are sometimes when I actually enjoy reading youtube comments NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 12/19/2008, 1:30am PST NEW
            You learn well from them. NT by Youtube Comment Sensei 12/19/2008, 7:38am PST NEW
    I heard China wants to be the second country to put a car on The Moon. NT by Jerry Whorebach 12/18/2008, 2:03pm PST NEW
        I heard you were the second-cutest boy on this tiny website NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 12/18/2008, 5:37pm PST NEW
    Why don't they build a normal car someone wants first? NT by Horus Truthteller 05/16/2018, 6:42pm PDT NEW
 
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