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by Bananadine 04/10/2008, 9:58am PDT |
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Mischief Makers wrote:
it won't threaten your sexuality like the Shanghai Alice games,
Oh no no no, my sexuality is unthreatenable. I think what this really was about is that, as you mention, the heroes are basically just points in these games--and that the enemies are also just points, even the bosses. It doesn't make much sense to have different, separately destructible, significantly spaced-apart pieces of little anime girls shooting different kinds of bullets at you, whereas this does make sense with robots. And I like having that, so I like robots. I also like seeing the configuration of these shooty things change at dramatic points during big setpiece-type battles, and that as well works much better with robots. Points don't do these things. Basically the games you like because of their purity are just too pure for me! They feel like empty exercises. I'm trying to say it better than "You just don't get it unless you get it" or "it's subjective maaan it all comes down to taste" but I guess that's where I've stopped!
As for the memory ones, I think there is at least a difference between the unpredictable trap hallway in Gradius and the various surprises you might encounter on a first playthrough of Ikaruga--as I recall, in Ikaruga you can generally get through a new threat if you react fast enough, and the barrier is only that hardly anyone can be expected to react that fast to that many unique, unfamiliar threats, consecutively. I imagine that there is a kind of person, maybe one in a million, who really can get through such a game on a first playthrough. And for that person, that playthrough is probably among the best experiences anybody can have. This would be an extreme version of how I have played Dance Dance Revolution--if I'm not just barely managing to sight-read something unfamiliar, then I'm probably not enjoying myself! While other people enjoy memorization and mechanical perfection, for whatever reason. |
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Ikaruga hits XBLA today by Mischief Makers 04/09/2008, 8:07am PDT 
Memory shmups like R-Type, Gradius, Darius etc. NT by Jerry Whorebach 04/09/2008, 2:36pm PDT
Memory shmup, sounds like shit. NT by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/09/2008, 2:38pm PDT
I liked G-Darius... by Mischief Makers 04/09/2008, 5:43pm PDT
Any game with rote memorization sucks period end of story case closed fuck you f NT by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/09/2008, 6:34pm PDT
how the fuck am I supposed to see any of that? NT by Grumah 04/10/2008, 9:45am PDT
1) Focus on your ship. 2) Don't play on a heavily compressed Youtube vid. by Mischief Maker 04/10/2008, 5:27pm PDT
mass effect NT by Grumah 04/11/2008, 4:21am PDT
Re: I liked G-Darius... by Bananadine 04/10/2008, 9:58am PDT
Everyone's always so down on memorization :( by Jerry Whorebach 04/10/2008, 5:44pm PDT
Learning ship movement patterns in yet another identical shootar. by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/10/2008, 6:00pm PDT
Your idea of learning is reading GameFAGs for Phoenix Wright. NT by Jerry Whorebach 04/10/2008, 6:20pm PDT
That's not really learning either. by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/10/2008, 7:12pm PDT
Learning patterns by Fussbett 04/10/2008, 6:50pm PDT
I didn't focus on their patterns. by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/10/2008, 7:14pm PDT
Plus nothing is more repetitive than a shmup. by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/10/2008, 7:39pm PDT
Not moving when someone shoots at you = GAMEPLAY NT by Mischief Maker 04/10/2008, 7:55pm PDT
You put "not" at the beginning for some reason, I don't know why. by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/10/2008, 8:03pm PDT
If you weren't going to dodge these bullets, you'd need some sort of shield, hm. by Wormu 04/10/2008, 9:29pm PDT
There's a difference between memorizing for rhythm games and memorizing for what by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/10/2008, 10:00pm PDT
There is, but not much of one NT by Fortinbras 04/10/2008, 10:25pm PDT
There isn't ANY. NT by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/10/2008, 11:18pm PDT
Guitar Hero by Mischief Maker 04/12/2008, 5:33pm PDT
the official 10 millionth jap shmup was released, new top down view! NT by Grumah 04/11/2008, 4:24am PDT
How dare you look down on Ikaruga >:( NT by Jerry Whorebach 04/12/2008, 9:21pm PDT
Psh, medium NT by Fussbett 04/10/2008, 8:02pm PDT
I guess you could say learning is half the battle. NT by G.I. Mischief 04/10/2008, 7:14pm PDT
I've scientifically condensed why Ikaruga is boring by FABIO 04/09/2008, 3:11pm PDT
FABIO WANTS TO DO MORE BLOWING NT by HEADLINE 04/09/2008, 4:48pm PDT
are you done? by FABIO 04/10/2008, 9:33pm PDT
x blah by Grumah 04/10/2008, 9:41am PDT
ALL OF THESE GAMES ARE JUST SILVER SURFER WITH VARYING LEVELS OF BULLSHIT NT by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/10/2008, 5:25pm PDT
Not everyone reads Cracked.com you know NT by Fortinbras 04/10/2008, 9:41pm PDT
Turns out Jhoh was ahead of the curve on this Cracked.com thing by Jerry Whorebach 03/28/2009, 11:30am PDT
They should give Jhoh a referral bonus NT by Fortinbras 03/28/2009, 1:58pm PDT
I think Flabliblo was the first person to link to cracked. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/28/2009, 2:19pm PDT
That is from Angry Vidyan Gaem Nerd. NT by Jhoh Creebul, Witch Toucher O_O 04/10/2008, 9:56pm PDT
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