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Update 2: HD is complicated. by Fussbett 12/17/2007, 12:34am PST
Fussbett wrote:

After being unable to string together long 1/8 notes (hi-hat lines or the strumming in the chorus of Hand That Feeds), I thought Rock Band was extra stringent about the timing, and I was extra rusty. Then I five-starred Hand That Feeds on the office standard def TV. Failure to five-star in one TV change? My Sony Bravia is the blame! I had set the TV calibration to "LCD TV" and thought my job was done. However, the state of HD is so awful, I needed to baby the calibration through trial and error. I found the perfect setting to be 20ms of adjustment in the "A/V sync" menu, and leaving the lag at zero. I'm disturbed that my A and V are 20ms out of sync on all my other games, but at least now I'm getting five stars all over the place in Rock Band.

TEST SYSTEM SPECS:
- Xbox 360 Elite
- HDMI
- Sony Bravia 46V3000

Since my positive diagnosis I discovered two more problems with this setup that I didn't notice at the time of writing: mic lag and drum fill lag. Drum fills are an acceptable casuality in the war to make the rest perfect, but mic lag is a deal breaker. Harmonix acknowledges this problem (although it's not really their fault) and so between the lawsuit-level anger on their forums I read about some workarounds straight from a Harmonix employee, two of which worked for me.

1) Don't use HDMI

WHAT! Sure enough, using component instantly made the mic more responsive over the HDMI. Oddly I still needed the 20ms of sync adjustment, which surprised me. I 5-starred my entire first tier of drums on expert to confirm. Only "Sun El" from my friends list, whoever that is, holds a higher score for Wanted Dead or Alive. He's not doing expert though. Bad lag during the drum fills still exists.

2) Run the audio straight to the stereo, not to the TV.

INCONVENIENT! This works amazing, though. I re-adjusted the sync down to 10ms, and now the drum fills seem nearly perfectly synced.

Summary

Everyone involved with HD: FIRED.
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Guitar Hero is dead, long live Rock Band by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 11/20/2007, 11:39pm PST NEW
    Re: Guitar Hero is dead, long live Rock Band by Entropy Stew 11/20/2007, 11:57pm PST NEW
        The drum-fill-to-activate-star-power mechanic is perfect NT by Entropy Stew 11/21/2007, 12:04am PST NEW
    Agreeing by Fussbett 11/30/2007, 2:44am PST NEW
        Update: strum bar extra mushy by Fussbett 12/03/2007, 4:35am PST NEW
            Lou Dobbs posting on Rockband.com forums by Fussbett 12/03/2007, 4:47am PST NEW
                His two big hobbies are strumming a fake guitar and revolution by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/06/2007, 2:37pm PST NEW
                    Hunkering down in a bunker somewhere in Arizona anticipating the metalocalypse NT by Fortinbras 12/09/2007, 6:58pm PST NEW
                    Oh man, that was bad by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/09/2007, 8:18pm PST NEW
            I can't return the guitar from Canada. Waiting for Canadian release date, 18th. NT by Fussbett 12/06/2007, 6:00am PST NEW
            I don't know if you already saw this by Lizard_King 12/06/2007, 10:35am PST NEW
                N/A by Fussbett 12/06/2007, 11:25am PST NEW
                    Let's just say I'm glad I have my Xplorer and Les Paul by Lizard_King 12/06/2007, 2:32pm PST NEW
                    Re: N/A by The Happiness Engine 12/09/2007, 1:11pm PST NEW
                        Is that a joke? Aren't you describing and actual guitar's single coil pickup? NT by Fussbett 12/09/2007, 4:44pm PST NEW
                            It's not, and I'm pretty sure I am. by The Happiness Engine 12/10/2007, 8:00pm PST NEW
                                Awesome. by Fussbett 12/10/2007, 9:13pm PST NEW
        Update 2: HD is complicated. by Fussbett 12/17/2007, 12:34am PST NEW
            That explains a lot. by Lizard_King 12/17/2007, 1:41am PST NEW
                Re: That explains a lot. by Fussbett 12/17/2007, 8:58am PST NEW
                    You're messing up my math by Lizard_King 12/17/2007, 10:29am PST NEW
                        Re: You're messing up my math by Fussbett 12/17/2007, 11:07am PST NEW
                            So basically... by Lizard_King 12/17/2007, 3:49pm PST NEW
            Re: Update 2: HD is complicated. by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 12/17/2007, 12:57pm PST NEW
                Re: Update 2: HD is complicated. by Carrie Brownstein 12/17/2007, 9:49pm PST NEW
                Whatever, pal. Your Wanted Dead or Alive record: broken. by Fussbett 12/17/2007, 10:51pm PST NEW
    I'm sorry but by bink 12/03/2007, 9:28am PST NEW
        Yes, matching pitch is all you have to do, even with the good mic. by Fussbett 12/03/2007, 10:47am PST NEW
            Apparently by Lizard_King 12/10/2007, 8:22pm PST NEW
                Won't Get Fooled Again got fooled again :( NT by Ray of Light 12/10/2007, 9:29pm PST NEW
                    The use of words expressing something other than their literal INTENTION! by Fortinbras 12/10/2007, 9:49pm PST NEW
 
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