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Here's the problem with this movie. by jeep 12/19/2005, 12:43pm PST
I know all about it already, I actually read the script a long time ago, so I'm not going to waste my time when I haven't seen anything else released in the last 2 months. Here was my problem with the script, then:

Imagine replacing Jake Gyllenhaal's character with a hot [insert ethnicity here] girl. Gabrielle Union, Aishwarya Rai, Ziyi Zhang or whoever. Granted it breaks some of the later stuff, but just look at the structure of the story with a guy and girl as the leads. Sure the wife still cries, but do you even go watch it? I sure as hell don't. Even if you put Keira Knightley in there, I don't see it.

Yeah sure guys having sex on film makes me cringe, that's the price of growing up Irish Catholic. So I find some way to neutralize my own biases to be able to make a decision whether or not it's a movie I want to see. If this movie makes it possible for other mainstream films to have gay lead characters, fine. If it means some noir film or scifi or heist movie or war movie or crime story or whatever is now a bit more complex because this dynamic is allowed, then they'll be better for it and I'll remember it was this one that made it ok for Hollywood. If it becomes a new tool for other directors to use to tell an interesting story, great, even though directors like Atom Egoyian never had much of a problem.

I suppose it has to start somewhere, and Ang Lee is certainly a good storyteller, but the Romeo and Juliet stories are done to death for me. This is sort of like old punk music to me, even if I don't care for the source material, hearing the effect it has on other genres certainly makes it a worthwhile endeavor. So I'll see the next generation and the next, where the movies have to individualize themselves beyond the obvious and too-easy derivations from the source material. I'll find things to enjoy that emerge from the complexity of having multiple sources, rather than sit through another "Romeo and Juliet plus X" retread.

/jeep/
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Brokeback Mountain by I need clarification 12/17/2005, 2:35am PST NEW
    Uh-oh! NT by TROLL ALERT! 12/17/2005, 4:34am PST NEW
        Bully for you, retard. NT by Caltrops 12/17/2005, 4:39am PST NEW
    MRS!?!? by Fullofkittens 12/17/2005, 7:03am PST NEW
        Regardless, Mrs. Inc still don't eat the PAWK on Friday NT by Or whenever those jewey-jews do it 12/17/2005, 8:34am PST NEW
            It's bad form to ask if she's a jew. by Worm 12/17/2005, 8:35am PST NEW
                Not classy. =( NT by Fullofkittens 12/17/2005, 8:44am PST NEW
                I hope you're serious. NT by Fussbett 12/17/2005, 8:45am PST NEW
                She can't be with a man after sundown. NT by Creexul :( 12/17/2005, 9:11am PST NEW
        Relax, I'm just using the handle Ray gave her a while back. Not official yet. NT by Woody Allen 12/17/2005, 11:23am PST NEW
            Another clue! by Bodybag 12/17/2005, 3:13pm PST NEW
    Here's the problem with this movie. by jeep 12/19/2005, 12:43pm PST NEW
        Does anyone remember jeep being this much of an idiot? NT by I need clarification 12/19/2005, 12:52pm PST NEW
            I HATE JEEP FOR SOME INEXPLICABLE REASON, PROBABLY INSECURAAAAAARRGGG NT by INC NOT TSENI QUEER SPIDERBOY 12/19/2005, 2:38pm PST NEW
                You really think the reason is inexplicable? NT by I need clarification 12/19/2005, 2:43pm PST NEW
                    How does insecurity become inexplicable? NT by Casual Observer 12/19/2005, 2:56pm PST NEW
                        Because the problem does not manifest itself in others. NT by FAB-E-I-E-I-OH SO QUEER. 12/19/2005, 3:08pm PST NEW
                            Just accept the fact that I'm the prettier woman here NT by Fabsy 12/19/2005, 4:08pm PST NEW
            YES NT by Blast-o from the Past-o 01/18/2006, 5:57pm PST NEW
        Re: Here's the problem with this movie. by Fullofkittens 12/19/2005, 1:35pm PST NEW
            The Hulk by skippy 12/19/2005, 6:15pm PST NEW
    THIS MOVIE HAS DUDES ASS FUCKING IN IT! NT by Quentin Beck 12/23/2005, 11:21am PST NEW
    All I could think of when I heard about this movie by Willdog 01/13/2006, 5:22pm PST NEW
        Holy shit, I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE NT by Everyone 01/13/2006, 7:40pm PST NEW
 
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