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Re: America and Russia used to be such great friends? by Creexul :( 05/04/2005, 11:37am PDT
FABIO wrote:

Weyoun Voidbringer wrote:

The time it takes to load the survival menus is much more annoying than the action taken to actually sort through it all.


Well yeah, that's why the fact that you had to access it so often was annoying. Also the long codec load times.

Since I can't design and produce games I try and just accept them along with their flaws, and hope that the good outweighs the bad. I would say that MGS3 is a superior game to mgs 1 and 2.


Really? I think they've been getting worse with each new installment. Not just the story (although 3 wasn't quite as bad as 2 there), but the gameplay as well (with the exception of a few minor tweaks like jumping and ledge hanging). 1 was great. 2 stuck you in a boring oil platform with boring boss fights that were horribly spaced out, made alerts take four times as long to end (which could be worked around by just running back and forth between loading zones). 3 took out all the things like radar and near-sighted deaf guards that were considered "unimmersive" when in fact those things were pretty vital to the game mechanics working, then made everything more tedious and time consuming by adding the camo system, field surgery, and eating.

Good point: The motorcycle chase at the end was cool. More of that, less of everything else.


The old games don't have CQC though. (OOOOOOOOOOOOOO)

Plus, the first person aiming in MGS2 was way too loose. In MGS3 I'm constantly clearing out an entire area in about a minute by popping headshots constantly with a silenced M16 (prototype thing). :(

There are things massively improved in MGS3's gameplay. But at the same time, yeah, it's like impossible to play if you can't see the enemy AND their direction on a radar. The camera system is too shitty (or "cinematic" as they think it is) and the resolution is too low. Most of the time when I try to tranquilize anyone from a nice enough distance, I'm basically aiming at a PIXEL that is their head. Plus there should not be a seperate button (L1) for ironsights mode. Pushing the square button down should do that for you really. Or something. I DON'T KNOW ;-;

I played the motorcycle chase again yesterday though, and that really is awesome. There's no people pissing themselves in front of other people, or guys made of bees, or gigantic fireballs with faces that swerve through the air and yell at you.

One other positive about this game is, besides the shitty camera where you can't see someone who might be right in front of you no matter how many sonar pings you fire or how much you crank up the motion detector, the environments are really pretty good. The jungle is really like a jungle with lots of grass, plants, trees, and little tiny animals hopping around, and then you can kill all them animals or shoot fruit down from the trees. Not that you'd ever need that much food. Basically you can find all the food you'd ever need for an entire game in one or two of the first areas.

Back to negative though, I still want to BITCH >_____________< about the camera system. You can go prone and use the scope and zoom in and look for enemies, but the fact is that if the camera won't show them to you, you won't see them UNLESS you go into first person and go into first person again and then again and again until you basically are never moving. And what really sucks is when you try really hard to get the feel of an area and the location of the enemies, you take some out, and then you go to get a tempting looking treasure box and some guy over there sees you and hits the alarm instantly and you have 50 people shooting at you. The fact is that this game doesn't really rely on stealth or a camo index or blending in or being sneaky or using the Mk23 instead of the 1911, or trying to gather intelligence on a location, or using your scope and first person and thermal goggles, or throwing empty magazines to "divert" the enemy's attention (directly to you, every time), or setting up TRAPS!!! by blowing up the food storage and then throwing food on the ground. Getting through this game without being detected relies a billion percent on the plain old tired Japanese rote memorization of areas from multiple playthroughs. In fact the game seems even more made for playing after finishing it, because the the more you finish it the more of the camos you get to keep, and it keeps a game completion counter on your save now. But being "stealthy" by just remembering "hey, there was an enemy there the last time I played, he will probably be there this time as well" is dumb.
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America and Russia used to be such great friends? by Weyoun Voidbringer 05/02/2005, 11:36am PDT NEW
    No one knew you bought it until you said that. >:( NT by Creexul :( 05/02/2005, 11:41am PDT NEW
        Uh oh, your hipster cred is in doubt! NT by bink 05/02/2005, 9:40pm PDT NEW
    Re: America and Russia used to be such great friends? by FABIO 05/02/2005, 12:47pm PDT NEW
        Re: America and Russia used to be such great friends? by Fussbett 05/02/2005, 1:20pm PDT NEW
            Re: America and Russia used to be such great friends? by FABIO 05/03/2005, 12:41am PDT NEW
                Re: America and Russia used to be such great friends? by Creexul :( 05/03/2005, 11:35am PDT NEW
        There ARE some good things in the game by the way. by Creexul :( 05/02/2005, 9:50pm PDT NEW
            good thing #1 by FABIO 05/03/2005, 12:37am PDT NEW
                good thing #2 by Andrew 05/03/2005, 3:53am PDT NEW
                    Re: good thing #2 by bombMexico 05/04/2005, 4:58pm PDT NEW
                        Re: good thing #2 by Creexul :( 05/04/2005, 5:19pm PDT NEW
                            Re: good thing #2 by bombMexico 05/05/2005, 1:15am PDT NEW
                                Re: good thing #2 by Creexul :( 05/05/2005, 1:36am PDT NEW
                                    Re: good thing #2 by bombMexico 05/05/2005, 2:05am PDT NEW
                                        Re: good thing #2 by Voyons Donc 05/05/2005, 5:45pm PDT NEW
                                            I should've read this post first! NT by Fussbett 05/06/2005, 7:22am PDT NEW
                                                more imdb funtime quotes by bombMexico 05/06/2005, 4:04pm PDT NEW
                                        TWIN SNAKES -- Important stuff from me in this post. by Fussbett 05/06/2005, 7:22am PDT NEW
                                            Re: TWIN SNAKES -- Important stuff from me in this post. by FABIO 05/06/2005, 12:41pm PDT NEW
                                                i weep for what could have been by bombMexico 05/06/2005, 3:37pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: TWIN SNAKES -- Important stuff from me in this post. by mark 05/06/2005, 1:42pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: good thing #2 by Quentin Beck 05/05/2005, 12:20pm PDT NEW
        Re: America and Russia used to be such great friends? by Weyoun Voidbringer 05/03/2005, 12:59pm PDT NEW
            Re: America and Russia used to be such great friends? by FABIO 05/04/2005, 1:35am PDT NEW
                Re: America and Russia used to be such great friends? by Creexul :( 05/04/2005, 11:37am PDT NEW
    What is with the piercing sobs at the final cutscene? by Creexul :( 05/04/2005, 8:02pm PDT NEW
        Re: What is with the piercing sobs at the final cutscene? by Quentin Beck 05/04/2005, 8:15pm PDT NEW
            Re: What is with the piercing sobs at the final cutscene? by Creexul :( 05/04/2005, 8:33pm PDT NEW
                The Video Game Money Shot NT by Mischief Maker 05/04/2005, 8:47pm PDT NEW
                Re: What is with the piercing sobs at the final cutscene? by I need clarification 05/04/2005, 10:13pm PDT NEW
                    Re: What is with the piercing sobs at the final cutscene? by Andrew 05/05/2005, 12:33pm PDT NEW
                        Besides Snake's eyeball exploding, and grown men and women pissing themselves. by Creexul :( 05/05/2005, 4:36pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Besides Snake's eyeball exploding, and grown men and women pissing themselve by Andrew 05/05/2005, 4:57pm PDT NEW
                        Re: What is with the piercing sobs at the final cutscene? by Mischief Maker 05/05/2005, 8:33pm PDT NEW
                            Re: What is with the piercing sobs at the final cutscene? by Quentin Beck 05/06/2005, 4:02am PDT NEW
                                Me Neither. But what about ZSENI??? NT by Mischief Maker 05/06/2005, 8:36am PDT NEW
        I couldn't even hear that part by FABIO 05/04/2005, 9:51pm PDT NEW
            Re: I couldn't even hear that part by Fullofkittens 05/04/2005, 10:41pm PDT NEW
                Fabio - a possible female? by bombMexico 05/05/2005, 1:30am PDT NEW
                    You caught me! NT by Mischief Maker 05/05/2005, 8:31pm PDT NEW
                        Egads! Caught you doing what? NT by The Holy Goat of Power 05/06/2005, 7:14am PDT NEW
 
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