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Re: Bay Area, Berkeley by OGF 09/08/2003, 11:27am PDT
MM, you going to find the Bay Area is a lot more left then Wisconson. The Bay Area is dominated by the liberal left. There is no center, just left. The republicans are no real factor here. (We don't even try) There isn't even a real center based Demo in the area. Local and national elections are all demos. We have Boxer, Brown (Willie), and Barbara Lee. It's going to be really different for you coming from Wisconson. I don't say that cause I expect things to be bad for you, just different. You might find yourself far to the center on a lot of issues. I would also advise you to adjust to the fact that isince you're a white male, you're going to be limited in what you can do and say. The local demo party machines are run by minorities and women. Straight white males don't count. What they do and say is all in the background. Get ready to be in the minority. Especially in the important demo circles. The dominant forces in the bay area are. (black, asian, women, latino, and gay) The only exception for demos is old white guys who've been around since the 70's. Like Jerry Brown.

An Aside: I've hired a lot of people from the midwest and east coast. They almost all have a tough time adjusting to the Bay Area. It usually takes a while. My advice to you. Be very Politically Correct. Especially since you're white and from the midwest. Most people around here think your type is the problem. Especially if you're male. Also be careful. There are some areas you don't go. Ask someone. Don't go canvassing the ESO cause some hippie tells you it's okay. There already close to or over 100 homicides in Oakland. Don't make it easy to chalk up another. If you do dope, don't go to the ghetto to get your dope. For some reason upper and middle class people from the midwest and east coast seem to thing you have to go to the ghetto to get your dope. And don't freak out and stare at the he gay people. It's rude. Nothing says tourist like staring at the gay people. Also there are lot's of people with questionable sexuality. Don't try and figure out. Don't try and guess if its a male or a female. Just cause it has a mustache; and wears dockers and a plaid shirt, doesn't mean it's a man. When in doubt, don't use gender based language.

For rent I would say $800 a month isn't enough. (Don't listen to SB and V on this. They aren't wrong. Just out of touch with the cost of living around here. Things have changed signifigantly since V was around.) Things are really expensive now in the bay area. Everything here cost more. Tack 20-40% onto about everything you pay now in Wisconson and you'll get the bay area cost. Get ready for sticker shock. (Example a bottled soda is $1.25 to $1.50, and a gallon of gas is 2.41.) I doubt that's what you'd pay for those items in Wisconson. Housing costs are outragous. There is no such thing as affordable housing. You should figure about $1000 minimum for what you want. That will put you someplace decent. There are parts of Richmond, El Cerrito, and Oakland that you won't be able to live in. Those are also the parts that are close to Bart. (Bart is for people who commute to San Francisco) Start looking close to Cal's campus in Berkeley. Berkeley has super strick rent control. They also make is nearly impossible to kick a tennant out after you move in. Also look in Emeryville and El Cerrito. Stay out of Richmond. Good rule of thumb for Oakland, El Cerrito, Emeryville, Richmond is nothing anywhere near a numbered street, or close to anything named Martin Luther King.

As for your job. Canvassing most areas in Berkeley and Oakland may be fruitless. There are so many groups and causes doing the same thing. You'll find most liberals sympathic but tapped out. The Money you want is in other cities. Alamo, Alameda, Danville, Dublin, Pleasenton, Walnut Creek, Lafayette, Moraga, etc... Marin is where the real money is for your cause. Also lots of money in the south bay. Palo Alto, San Mateo, and down to the Silicon Valley. If you want to be sucessful you're going to have to get to those areas. For that, you'll need a car
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SF Bay area of San Diego area. WHERE SHOULD I MOVE? NT by Mischief Maker calling all fruits 08/26/2003, 2:18pm PDT NEW
    Without even having lived there by Senor Barborito 08/26/2003, 2:38pm PDT NEW
        The office is in Berkeley, but I am poor. Could she elaborate here? NT by MM misses V 08/26/2003, 3:16pm PDT NEW
            Are you working for PIRG again? NT by whydirt 08/27/2003, 3:52pm PDT NEW
                Yes by MM breaks the fourth Wall 08/27/2003, 10:23pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Yes by whydirt 08/27/2003, 10:55pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Yes by foogla 08/28/2003, 4:58am PDT NEW
                            Re: Yes by whydirt 08/28/2003, 1:03pm PDT NEW
                        Realtime forums by MM in brief 09/04/2003, 9:15pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Realtime forums by whydirt, PATTY PATTY PATTY 09/05/2003, 1:50am PDT NEW
                    I did that... by K. Thor Jensen 08/28/2003, 9:44am PDT NEW
            Re: The office is in Berkeley, but I am poor. Could she elaborate here? by veronica 09/04/2003, 7:41pm PDT NEW
                Thanks! NT by MM in brief 09/04/2003, 9:13pm PDT NEW
    Bay Area, Berkeley by OGF 08/28/2003, 11:08am PDT NEW
        Re: Bay Area, Berkeley by Language Hitler 08/28/2003, 7:34pm PDT NEW
            Put Slappy on it, too, for that post title below. NT by Choson 08/28/2003, 9:37pm PDT NEW
                And you can climb aboard as well! by Slappy 08/28/2003, 9:57pm PDT NEW
                    mrs. johnson - Confused Child. I'm not even sure what to think. NT by mrs. johnson 08/28/2003, 10:55pm PDT NEW
                    Re: And you can climb aboard as well! by Choson 08/29/2003, 1:42am PDT NEW
        Isn't San Diego and Oakland seperated by like... many hundreds of miles? by Slappy 08/28/2003, 9:20pm PDT NEW
            I think you may be stupid. Care to confirm? by I need clarification 09/04/2003, 7:15pm PDT NEW
        Re: Bay Area, Berkeley by MM in brief 09/04/2003, 9:12pm PDT NEW
            Re: Bay Area, Berkeley by Averyone in CA 09/05/2003, 1:06am PDT NEW
            V says she managed in El Cerito for less than $800/mo. by Senor Barborito 09/05/2003, 1:16am PDT NEW
                Re: V says she managed in El Cerito for less than $800/mo. by OGF 09/08/2003, 9:54am PDT NEW
                    Yeah, this was like five years back. NT by Senor Barborito 09/09/2003, 11:21am PDT NEW
            Re: Bay Area, Berkeley by OGF 09/08/2003, 11:27am PDT NEW
                That's it. I'm moving. by Lizard_King 09/08/2003, 12:37pm PDT NEW
                Yeek! Seattle perhaps? by MM in brief 09/09/2003, 11:22pm PDT NEW
                    Capitol Hill, the nice gay district, has gone to ghetto & Bellevue is pricey by Senor Barborito 09/10/2003, 1:15am PDT NEW
 
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