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5 minutes into the second act. by Fussbett 08/11/2003, 12:48am PDT
I was trying to end my involvement in the argument gracefully (and even bowed out without refuting your last post) because this is a terrible debate. I'm not putting much effort into it, and you're boring, dumb, and keep changing your thesis which makes the proceedings just a silly exchange.

BUT! You have tenacity. So now, as requested, here is me getting trolled:

After losing on the other points, you seem to think you've found an angle where you can get me. Topple the house of cards I've constructed by removing my all important lynchpin: MAP COMPLEXITY. Regardless of this being only a tiny fragment of what makes RtCW:ET a good game, as dead international terrorist Hans Gruber pointed out, you're still wrong. The maps are good.

You say the maps are not complex because they're just "protect or destroy". You offer a Ray of Hope in the form of the possibility of multiple victory conditions.

Please tell me one map has two ways of finishing it on one side.

THIS is the official Worm Complex Map litmus test? How ridiculous. File that with "X-Men" in your "Personal Worm Shit That Isn't Important to Anyone Else" folder. For the record, Gold Rush is (1) Capture (repair) (2) Protect (moving target) (2b) Destroy (barricades, if placed by opponent) (3) Capture and deliver (4) Capture (repair) (5) Protect (5b) Destroy (barricades, if placed). And don't forget that each of these plot points happens in a different location on the map. Maybe some other game has maps like this, I suppose it's possible I've just missed those games. Feel free to drop me a link to some EGA game on HoTU that is comparable. Or Soldat.

And remember, even if you won this map complexity argument in some parallel dimension, that's only one of the nice qualities that RtCW:ET has to offer. Also remember: while decrying RtCW:ET as being a "me too" title, you call for a return to deathmatch FPS games. Which is insanely insane. Most people just say "I prefer deathmatch" in passing, and leave it at that.
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Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) by Fussbett 06/23/2003, 2:56pm PDT NEW
    Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) by Lufteufel 06/23/2003, 8:53pm PDT NEW
        FilePlanet by Fussbett 06/23/2003, 8:58pm PDT NEW
            Re: FilePlanet by Lufteufel 06/24/2003, 11:51pm PDT NEW
                Re: FilePlanet by E. L. Koba 06/25/2003, 1:23am PDT NEW
                    Re: FilePlanet by Live Studio Audience 06/25/2003, 5:59pm PDT NEW
    Re: RtCW: Enemy Territory (free) by Live Studio Audience 06/23/2003, 9:33pm PDT NEW
        It's like they fixed everything I didn't like about the test... by Arbit 06/24/2003, 6:21am PDT NEW
    ET is taking over my CS clan :( NT by foogla 06/24/2003, 6:04am PDT NEW
        Germans love to play Nazi :( NT by Fussbett 06/24/2003, 12:54pm PDT NEW
    Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) by Unbitter 06/28/2003, 12:01pm PDT NEW
    With limited lives and friendly fire, this game is brilliant. NT by mark 07/01/2003, 11:43am PDT NEW
    Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) by Worm 08/05/2003, 12:05pm PDT NEW
        Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) by Fussbett 08/05/2003, 8:58pm PDT NEW
            Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) by Worm 08/06/2003, 3:06am PDT NEW
                Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) by Fussbett 08/07/2003, 4:31am PDT NEW
                    Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) by FABIO 08/07/2003, 4:39am PDT NEW
                    Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) by Worm 08/07/2003, 8:03pm PDT NEW
                        The end. by Fussbett 08/09/2003, 2:47am PDT NEW
                            Re: The end. by Worm 08/09/2003, 6:10am PDT NEW
                                ET: needs X-men NT by Entropy Stew 08/09/2003, 6:40am PDT NEW
                                    We could always keep every FPS soldiers and what not. NT by Worm 08/09/2003, 11:26am PDT NEW
                                        Yeah, like Hexen and Thief and Half-Life and Max Payne and UT by Entropy Stew 08/09/2003, 11:54am PDT NEW
                                            Re: Yeah, like Hexen and Thief and Half-Life and Max Payne and UT by Worm 08/09/2003, 12:46pm PDT NEW
                                                Please don't say "Like Hexen." Someone might hear you. by Bill Dungsroman 08/11/2003, 1:01pm PDT NEW
                                                    I meant just a decent FPS with gay axes and bows not one with nodes. NT by Worm 08/11/2003, 1:47pm PDT NEW
                                                        hand to hand DOES NOT WORK in a FPS by FABIO 08/11/2003, 4:07pm PDT NEW
                                Epilogue by Fussbett 08/09/2003, 5:08pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Epilogue by Worm 08/10/2003, 1:02pm PDT NEW
                                        The complexity is provided by the human opponents by Entropy Stew 08/10/2003, 1:26pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: The complexity is provided by the human opponents by Worm 08/10/2003, 2:57pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: The complexity is provided by the human opponents by Entropy Stew 08/10/2003, 4:09pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: The complexity is provided by the human opponents by Worm 08/10/2003, 5:14pm PDT NEW
                                                        I smell a MtG fanboi NT by Mr. Cranky 08/10/2003, 5:45pm PDT NEW
                                                            Yea, I must be because I don't think RtCW:ET is very complex. NT by Worm 08/10/2003, 7:00pm PDT NEW
                                                        You should consult for the military NT by Entropy Stew 08/10/2003, 8:39pm PDT NEW
                                                            I don't even play the game. by Worm 08/10/2003, 8:43pm PDT NEW
                                                                I wasn't even inferring that MtG was gay. by Mr. Cranky 08/10/2003, 9:23pm PDT NEW
                                                                I don't play The Military either by Entropy Stew 08/10/2003, 10:37pm PDT NEW
                                        The very end. by Fussbett 08/10/2003, 2:42pm PDT NEW
                                            THE SUPERY DUPERY END by Worm 08/10/2003, 3:13pm PDT NEW
                                                WORM YOU FUCKING LIMPDICKED FAGGOT by Hans Gruber 08/10/2003, 8:54pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: WORM YOU FUCKING LIMPDICKED FAGGOT by Worm 08/10/2003, 9:19pm PDT NEW
                                                        No, no, no, no, no. by Hans Gruber 08/10/2003, 9:38pm PDT NEW
                                                5 minutes into the second act. by Fussbett 08/11/2003, 12:48am PDT NEW
                                                    I prefer deathmatch. NT by Worm 08/11/2003, 10:10am PDT NEW
                                        Just because it is more complicated doesn't make it complex by Roop Dirump 08/10/2003, 11:59pm PDT NEW
                                            Imagine an airplane. NT by Fussbett 08/11/2003, 12:02am PDT NEW
                                            Being ACTUALLY complicated rather than more complex than a simple game NT by Worm 08/11/2003, 12:07am PDT NEW
                                                So it's more complicated than simple but not as complicated as complex? NT by Roop Dirump 08/11/2003, 2:03am PDT NEW
                                                I'm writing a Quicken Total Conversion as we speak! NT by Entropy Stew 08/11/2003, 2:28am PDT NEW
        also tired of class based crap by FABIO 08/05/2003, 9:53pm PDT NEW
            The issue was not RtCW:ET versus BF1942 by Fussbett 08/05/2003, 11:33pm PDT NEW
            OMG by Arbit 08/06/2003, 12:38am PDT NEW
                Re: OMG by FABIO 08/06/2003, 1:44am PDT NEW
                    Re: OMG by Arbit 08/06/2003, 7:21pm PDT NEW
                        Except... by FoK 08/06/2003, 7:44pm PDT NEW
                            Well... by Arbit 08/06/2003, 8:52pm PDT NEW
    Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) NT by Quentin Beck 12/14/2007, 1:30am PST NEW
    Re: Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) NT by Quentin Beck 12/14/2007, 1:30am PST NEW
 
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