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Not quite by Senor Barborito 07/17/2003, 12:28am PDT
Sweden's healthcare system is, to the best of my understanding, far more economically efficient than any other socialist healthcare model (Canada's, triply so the UK's, etc.) simply because hospitals with minimal success/turnover get minimal government funding. There are many other socialist programs that DO cost them a significant amount of money, however. Where I think they go wrong is welfare - I believe non-disabled citizens should have to work to eat (which would put me out on the street), but that the government should find jobs for the unemployed who desire one that matches their skillsets (which would negate any being on the street for me).

Incentive doesn't just keep people working hard - it also keeps the system maintainable by ensuring smooth matching between supply/demand. That's where socialism really wins out to begin with, out of course - it trims the fat (or the rape, depending on your connotation preference) from the system and uses the bonus to push the system forward that much harder as a whole. Where things start going sour is when people try to add more principles to the concept than this.

--SB
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Cretins of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your prosperity. by Lizard_King 07/13/2003, 6:52pm PDT NEW
    Rimshot by Lizard_King 07/13/2003, 6:57pm PDT NEW
        When in doubt, trot out the terrists NT by Damocles 07/14/2003, 12:09pm PDT NEW
            When in doubt, post nonsense. See above for example. by Lizard_King 07/14/2003, 7:20pm PDT NEW
                Re: When in doubt, post strawmen. See above for example. by Damocles 07/15/2003, 3:00pm PDT NEW
                    Re: When in doubt, post strawmen. See above for example. by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 2:25am PDT NEW
                        Re: When in doubt, post strawmen. See above for example. by Damocles 07/16/2003, 4:53am PDT NEW
                            Which would imply I was a Republican to begin with. by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 9:24pm PDT NEW
    Are you angry about the US administration being raped? You're so trolly lately. NT by Senor Barborito 07/14/2003, 7:16am PDT NEW
        You are the only person here who would think he's trolling by laudablepuss 07/14/2003, 3:36pm PDT NEW
        Sometimes I forget that you still buy that shit lock stock and barrel. by Lizard_King 07/14/2003, 7:18pm PDT NEW
            Man alive chile' these people dunn gimme the hinks by Sildenafil 07/14/2003, 7:33pm PDT NEW
                I guess if you're a Muslim idealist you need only plan for a third world economy NT by Lizard_King 07/14/2003, 7:55pm PDT NEW
                    Exactly by Senor Barborito 07/14/2003, 9:50pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Exactly by Forensic 07/15/2003, 6:49pm PDT NEW
                            Eeeeeeeeeeeeeenteresting NT by Senor Barborito 07/15/2003, 6:55pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Exactly by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 2:21am PDT NEW
                            Re: Exactly by foogla 07/16/2003, 5:00am PDT NEW
                            Because it is the ideal solution for a mature humanity. by Senor Barborito 07/16/2003, 5:21am PDT NEW
                                Wait, wait... by FoK 07/16/2003, 8:36am PDT NEW
                                    6:30AM after a full night mining in SWG, bear with my spelling/grammar here by Senor Barborito 07/16/2003, 9:49am PDT NEW
                                        Re: 6:30AM after a full night mining in SWG, bear with my spelling/grammar here by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 9:36pm PDT NEW
                                            Not quite by Senor Barborito 07/17/2003, 12:28am PDT NEW
                                            Re: 6:30AM after a full night mining in SWG, bear with my spelling/grammar here by foogla 07/17/2003, 2:23am PDT NEW
                                Re: Because it is the ideal solution for a mature humanity. by Lizard_King 07/16/2003, 9:29pm PDT NEW
 
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