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by Chairman Mao 04/28/2003, 10:09pm PDT |
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E. L. Koba wrote:
Bitter wrote:
To address another point made later, Javelin is fire and forget. In the real world, you probably wouldn't just stand around and watch it fly, unless your opponents are Iraqis and you can you pretty much idle your ass at will. Note that the motor is essentially smokeless, so it's not like a guy in the tank would see jack shit. Also, there's not much backblast, so Javelin can be fired out of windows, from under overhangs, etc.
I'm not saying it's not a good weapon. It's great from everything I've heard. Actually, anything that gets rid of the Dragon is good idea. Just that one good anti-tank weapon does not put the tank of of business. People have been saying the age of the tank is over ever since they discovered the Monroe Effect.
Also: Most modern tanks, even Chinese, Indian and Russian ones, to say nothing of supurb tanks like the Abrams, Leopard, or Challenger II, have infrared or milimeter band threat warning sensors that would most certainly see the missile, smokeless or not.
Poeple have been saying the age of artillery is over as well, but after the tremendous amount of use the Paladin's saw in Iraq, hopefully there will be life left in the Crusader after all. Supposedly they have renewed the project, with a hull redesign to slim it to 40 tonnes. We'll see.
As for the death of the tank;
Its often likened to the battleship, even though the analogy is largely inapplicable. Every time the "transformational warfare" people start to chatter about how everything needs to be light, another war rolls around and heavy armour proves itself yet again. Indeed, its seems that Vietnam was the exception, and not the rule, as the light-mobile people seem to think.
I didn't have a whole lot of faith in the notion that the M1's eventual successor will weigh no more than 40 tons and offer similar armoured protection, until I heard about EM armour (intense EM lines of force form inside the plate as a penetrator strikes, energies similar to a rail gun's propulsion charge). Pretty slick. I think the tank is here to stay, as one component of a tightly-knit combined-arms force. |
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Really REALLY bad review, says Neotaku forumite by Fussbett 04/24/2003, 12:45pm PDT 
Re: Really REALLY bad review, says Neotaku forumite by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/24/2003, 12:56pm PDT 
Re: Really REALLY bad review, says Neotaku forumite by Fussbett 04/26/2003, 12:31pm PDT 
Replied. NT by Jhoh Creexul 04/25/2003, 3:40am PDT 
You scum are no better... TO A ROCKET SCIENTIST! NT by Dr. Neal Brown 04/25/2003, 6:03am PDT 
But unlike the neotaku, I'll honor you ... WITH A CORRECTLY SPELLED POST! NT by Dr. Neal Browne 04/25/2003, 10:26am PDT 
Do not fuck with a rocket scientist by Dr. Neal Brown 04/25/2003, 10:34am PDT 
I work with a rocket scientist... by Chairman Mao 04/25/2003, 11:48am PDT 
Fucking Mexicans taking all our rocket scientist jobs NT by Entropy Stew 04/25/2003, 11:58am PDT 
More money, but less blowing shit up. by Bitter 04/25/2003, 8:39pm PDT 
Required by law to respond to all posts with 'rocket' in them. NT by Bitter 04/25/2003, 9:07pm PDT 
Re: More money, but less blowing shit up. by E. L. Koba 04/25/2003, 11:11pm PDT 
Re: More money, but less blowing shit up. by Chairman Mao 04/25/2003, 11:26pm PDT 
Re: More money, but less blowing shit up. by FABIO 04/26/2003, 1:37am PDT 
Re: More money, but less blowing shit up. by E. L. Koba 04/27/2003, 7:05pm PDT 
Re: More money, but less blowing shit up. by Bitter 04/27/2003, 10:27pm PDT 
Re: More money, but less blowing shit up. by E. L. Koba 04/28/2003, 9:21pm PDT 
I am to tanks as Barbie is to small arms. by Chairman Mao 04/28/2003, 10:09pm PDT 
Re: I am to tanks as Barbie is to small arms. by E. L. Koba 04/28/2003, 11:42pm PDT 
Speaking of by Ray, of Light 04/28/2003, 11:59pm PDT 
What happens when they shoot off your antenna/camera/whatever with small arms? NT by Entropy Stew 04/29/2003, 12:03am PDT 
Re: Speaking of by Chairman Mao 04/29/2003, 12:09am PDT 
I'm still waiting for spider mines NT by Entropy Stew 04/29/2003, 12:11am PDT 
or terror drones by FABIO 04/29/2003, 1:05am PDT 
Would jumping spider mines fit the bill? by Forensic 04/29/2003, 7:02pm PDT 
Superpower prepares weapons, Register horrified, film at 11. by Chairman Mao 04/29/2003, 7:18pm PDT 
Re: Speaking of by E. L. Koba 04/29/2003, 3:27am PDT 
Answer by Senor Barborito 04/29/2003, 8:08am PDT 
Stealing your idea below and adding it as point 6 by Senor Barborito 04/29/2003, 8:24am PDT 
Re: Speaking of by Chairman Mao 04/29/2003, 1:58pm PDT 
Re: I am to tanks as Barbie is to small arms. by Chairman Mao 04/29/2003, 12:24am PDT 
Re: I am to tanks as Barbie is to small arms. by E. L. Koba 04/29/2003, 3:42am PDT 
I'm a rocket scientist too. by The White Rocket. 04/25/2003, 1:07pm PDT 
Fag NT by Dr. Neal Brown 04/25/2003, 2:20pm PDT 
BLAST OFF TO THE MILKY WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! NT by The White Rocket. 04/25/2003, 2:26pm PDT 
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