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Re: Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, etc. by Bill Dungsroman 03/27/2003, 5:18pm PST
up with pod people wrote:

Senor Barborito wrote:

It was the only time I didn't laugh at a Monty Python skit but just stood there numb with shock and sickened to the core. I haven't really laughed at Monty Python the same way since - after seeing that it's just really not as funny for me anymore.
Wow, I'm not the only one. I saw that movie at the tender age of eleven. Years go by, and I read about doctors dissembling about whether or not their patients are actually braindead, in order to harvest. It screams "basement conspiracy theory," but it's still unsettling enough to give one pause.


Um, I hate to break it to you, but doctors don't (or at least, no longer do, if they did) sit around arguing brain death. A blood flow angiograph to the brain establishes brain death. If blood stops flowing to the brain, it is dead. It will not come back. Also, the doctor that makes the official proclamation of brain death is the patient's doctor (whom they already had or was assigned when admitted to the ICU or CCU) or a neurologist consult. TRANSPLANT SURGEONS DO NOT DECLARE BRAIN DEATH. They do not even see the donor until the patient is prepped and in the O.R. for procurement, long after brain death has been confirmed. People don't understand that there are too many people involved in organ donation for it to be a ghoulish racket where doctors covertly kill or prematurely let die patients to get their organs. That's like blaming the airline ticketing agent for crashing your plane after it's in the air.

On of the problems, though, is that there are older physicians and O.R. techs who don't get that recorded brian death via brain angiography is an actual - and literal - proclamation of death. Time of Death is when the doctor or neurologist reads the angio results and scribbles "Brain death" in a progress note. Then we go to surgery and the old ass O.R. tech says "When was cross-clamp?" Cross-clamp is when the heart is allowed to stop and actual removal of organs begins. The OR tech goes and incorrectly records cross-clamp as TOD, when it isn't. Real TOD was whenever blood stopped going to the brain. No one gets better after blood stops flowing to the brain. It drives me fucking nuts. You're all worried about nothing, at least in those terms.

BDR

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    WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC by Senor Barboito 03/26/2003, 8:55am PST NEW
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        I LERV U FLABLIO -tn- by Bwerjyerjgdehuagurozgo 03/26/2003, 11:24am PST NEW
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            I can't believe I'm posting in the Cran-Grape forum again. by Lurker #39 03/27/2003, 7:02am PST NEW
            Fanfic by Bill Dungsroman 03/27/2003, 11:53am PST NEW
                Bwahahaha -NT- by Senor Barborito 03/27/2003, 12:14pm PST NEW
                Bally good by Entropy sTew 03/27/2003, 12:14pm PST NEW
                interesting, very interesting..... NT by A young Bob Page 03/27/2003, 1:02pm PST NEW
            Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, etc. by up with pod people 03/27/2003, 3:12pm PST NEW
                Re: Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, etc. by Bill Dungsroman 03/27/2003, 5:18pm PST NEW
                    I'm not worried about that happening by Senor Barborito 03/28/2003, 6:43am PST NEW
                        Memories from your past life. NT by FoK 03/28/2003, 9:32am PST NEW
                        While we're all sucking at the cock of shared experience... by Git 03/31/2003, 5:18pm PST NEW
 
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