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Re: All the fun of insane arcade shooters, all the beauty of Boccioni. by CrackerBarrel 02/04/2003, 2:22pm PST
curst wrote:

CrackerBarrel wrote:

So far I can get through levels 1, 3, and 4 but for some reason 2 always kicks my ass. I also haven't figured out a sane use for the slow-down button. The Endless modes are fun and an adrenaline rush, but the scripted levels are really fun to watch. The barrage and enemy combinations become more and more devious as you go. At some point you learn that you can sit in one spot and waste ten or so enemies in a row as they all spawn in one place. This evolves to ten enemies here, then ten there slightly overlapping. This evolves to ten enemies here, then ten bigger enemies there, slightly overlapping again, with the the stream of the original ten small enemies turning to a stream of larger enemies while your still dealing with the second stream of medium enemies. There's also a medium boss that has vertically oscilatting barrage pattern of thick projectiles. It basically forces you to line up directly beaneath it then it launches a barrage of projectiles that shoot off on a tangent, then turn 90 degrees to home in on you when there's little space to move.

Again I think this game is really smart and elegant and above all fun. As I write this it's sort of playing on the back of my eyes.

I don't know why I chose Boccioni. Futurism came to mind first and for some reason I couldn't think of Matta's name, but I could see his paintings.


The game is good, and j00 sux0r. I've beaten every level but Eight and naturally the endless ones (what a great idea).

You mention not figuring out how to use the slowdown button - all I can say is that it lets me navigate the more ridiculous phalanxes of projectiles far more easily. Indeed, I can't imagine how you beat the levels you say you did without relying on it heavily. Using it, you can sit there in the middle of the huge seas of green bonus-point squares collecting tons of points (racking up the extra ships, which doesn't hurt), and then you just move a tiny bit at a time when you need to dodge projectiles. Plus, if I move around when not using the slowdown key, I seem to have a much harder time collecting the bonus points - the green squares seem to 'slip away' from me.

Also, one trick I use for shooters in general (it also helped me *hugely* with Cho Ren Sha 68K) is that I never watch where my ship is shooting, but rather stare almost directly at my ship at all times, maybe staring just a little bit above it. This gives me a pretty clear idea of where I can and can't go. I simply don't worry about whether or not I'm actually hitting any enemies. Maybe that's intuitive for most people, but I find I have to actively concentrate on doing this, otherwise I find my vision always shifting towards the enemy directly, which does me no good when I have to carefully squeeze through a waterfall of lasers and missiles. When I played CRS68K before using this 'tactic', I couldn't get past the fourth level without Continuing... now I can make it to stage 2-2, and my high score leaped from around 1.5 million to around 4.7 million. I just tend to survive much, much longer.

Oh yeah, and the best score I got here was somewhere around 2.5 million on stage 10. Anyone have any idea if that's good or not? I always wonder, because for a while I was bragging about being able to beat TechnoSylph (a super-pretty and actually rather spiffy little shooter Mischief Maker linked to back on OMM) even though I couldn't begin to read the instructions for the game, so I thought I had figured out all the game's mechanics. Then I visited the author's website and holy fucking shit... my l33+ 225,000 high score was dwarfed by the thirty or so motherfuckers who had racked up over 800,000 points! (I still have *NO* fucking idea how anyone could pull that off without cheating.)


Quite possible I do suck. I was never around these types of arcade games when I was a kid. (For some reason the one arcade in town was the one place where the tough kids hung out, and your parents would scold you if they found out you even went there. My friends and I would go there from time to time but they seemed to favor driving games, pinball, and table games.) I figured the slowdown key was used for that but I pay more attention to enemies, investing a good deal of concentration in the peripheral vision around my ship. I'm actually getting pretty good at dodging barrages while not really watching. Not to mention I find the best way to avoid fire is to make sure it never happens. Plus I get some pretty kick ass scores as I kill almost all the bad guys that pop up. The key to collecting the bonuses is being close to the enemy you kill. I find that about half-way up the screen the fire is more concentrated and thus, less effective and easier to dodge. At this point I have finally defeated level 2 and also 5 in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier. On levels 2-5 my score is better than 1.5 million with level 5 highscore right now at 1.9 million.

I think your method is probably good for end-bosses, but I'll continue to refine my skills this way for the mega points. The enemies that piss me off the most are the ones that shoot the curving projectiles and the ones that pop up and fly up off the screen leaving a J-shaped trail of stationary "mines". I'm also not too fond of the medium bosses that spray back and forth back and forth. I noticed something neat once while I was watching the enemies go on trying to kill the memory of me after my game was over. I could see this withering fire directed at the point I used to inhabit, but I saw these small enemies that spawned and fired a small stream in two directions, just slightly to either side of you.
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All the fun of insane arcade shooters, all the beauty of Boccioni. by CrackerBarrel 02/02/2003, 8:36pm PST NEW
    One more screen. by CrackerBarrel 02/02/2003, 11:34pm PST NEW
    Neat. by ydrt 02/02/2003, 11:41pm PST NEW
    Re: All the fun of insane arcade shooters, all the beauty of Boccioni. by CrackerBarrel 02/03/2003, 3:55pm PST NEW
        Re: All the fun of insane arcade shooters, all the beauty of Boccioni. by curst 02/04/2003, 9:30am PST NEW
            Re: All the fun of insane arcade shooters, all the beauty of Boccioni. by CrackerBarrel 02/04/2003, 2:22pm PST NEW
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