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Re: Who's selfish? by Ulrachi 01/31/2020, 10:12am PST
Vested Id wrote:

Ulrachi wrote:

Furcifer wrote:

Vested Id wrote:

Going to need confirmation that this is a joke
Christ, I'm glad you said something, because I was starting to think I was the only one who wasn't in on it. I see regular posters here mention a Discord server from time to time, so I figure there's some group behind the scenes that coordinates these tiresome little Kaufmanesque performance art pieces, hoping those of us not in the know will complain so they can sniggcker at us for being a such a bunch of rubes. The name "Clownshoes" is certainly like a big, honking red nose pointing to the whole thing being a goof. And the idea that the hosting provider is clutching their pearls because somebody dropped a couple of n-bombs in the forums is pretty goddamn ridiculous as well. But Jonesy did endorse this Clownshoes character on multiple occasions. If this is all a big joke, I suggest you guys pull it back before you start actually driving casual readers away, because you're starting to make yourselves look like genuine idiots. And if it's not a joke... well, it was a good run, boys.


Some guy that I've never seen post wants to be able to use racist language, and fuck the moderator if it's impacting his real life. You really are a selfish prick. Go to voat.

Driving away casual readers because they CAN'T use edgy n-words. Holy fuck.

Hope there's more than two people here watching the sarcasm immune system turn on the host.

I'll explain it for people who have been broken badly by the Trump era:

1. Racism is bad, we learn.
2. Racism becomes "sacrilized", source of extreme anxiety. It's a "sacred cow".
3. It's good to poke, tip, and slaughter sacred cows.

The further #2 goes, like actual language prohibition, the cow becomes more sacred and more deserving of abuse.

And if you're autism-free and have intuition for the dynamics above, you can always detect when we're seeing the real thing or just someone giving the cattle grief. For example — if some asshole keeps dropping in unprompted to test for alt-right sentiment with antisemitic posts, that's regular racism pretending to be something else.

I was in favor of deleting those posts (not for love of jews, who are great don't get me wrong, but because the posts are clearly racist) but now I feel like any step in the direction of more moderation isn't going to stop until Caltrops becomes the sort of forum they used to mock, and which themselves have gone into overdrive. That's another example of how the dynamics work — the cheaper the appeal for moderation, the more threatening any moderation becomes.

How often have people said "nigger" in this forum since 2003? A place they've been free to do so since day one? Stop demanding to outlaw words.

People have been posting again, excellent posts, it's great. And unlike blackwater, I don't think there's anything old-fashioned about Caltrops. It's the changes elsewhere that are wrong, and I think you're going to see where aspirations to try and control language get you in the coming years.



Let me ask you this. The post by the guy with the author field of Just Fuck Right Off. To me that is worthless racism. That post should be deleted. It's the only post in this thread with no value. Would you agree with that? I'm genuinely asking, I have no ulterior motive.
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Are the Creexuls still alive? by Mysterio 01/26/2020, 11:30pm PST NEW
    Aren't they still on here? NT by "Oh" or one of the others 01/27/2020, 12:20am PST NEW
        I thought Oh was jsoh, yes. NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/27/2020, 8:25am PST NEW
            Hey fellas, hi, DM me on the discord if you're the antisemites NT by Thanks 01/27/2020, 12:02pm PST NEW
                your IP is NT by Niggers! 01/27/2020, 12:44pm PST NEW
                    Bless Caltrops by honestly 01/27/2020, 2:19pm PST NEW
                        Don't get too attached. by Dick Clownshoes 01/27/2020, 10:41pm PST NEW
                            I'm getting an old-timey sea captain vibe from this clown. by blackwater 01/28/2020, 5:59am PST NEW
                                Yeah, but IP banning everyone who uses language like that would be great. by Eury 01/28/2020, 8:55am PST NEW
                                    No by Vested Id 01/28/2020, 9:36am PST NEW
                                        Re: No by Vested Id 01/28/2020, 2:34pm PST NEW
                                            "The same way people didn't throw it around prior to Ferguson, and really not NT by much after" <- a real person 01/28/2020, 5:35pm PST NEW
                                                Drive-by takes, however, skyrocketed from 2017 onward NT by Vested Id 01/28/2020, 6:06pm PST NEW
                                                    IMHO the only time it's acceptable to say the n-word is when you're NT by really mad at a black person. 01/29/2020, 1:54am PST NEW
                                            Its like nobody learned anything from the MM/Z Media Conspiracy lolocaust by r/asablackman 01/29/2020, 11:51am PST NEW
                                                Eury's race is not the issue. NT by Dick Clownshoes 01/29/2020, 3:18pm PST NEW
                                                    THE BLACK MAN IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE DUDE NT by African American please 01/29/2020, 3:19pm PST NEW
                                            Re: No by Dick Clownshoes 01/30/2020, 1:14pm PST NEW
                                                ... by Vested Id 01/30/2020, 1:43pm PST NEW
                                                    Re: ... by Dick Clownshoes 01/30/2020, 2:39pm PST NEW
                                                    Re: ... by Furcifer 01/30/2020, 5:56pm PST NEW
                                                        Re: ... by Eury 01/30/2020, 6:27pm PST NEW
                                                            Find a different forum by Vested Id 01/30/2020, 6:44pm PST NEW
                                                            Run a search on the word "fag" here NT by It's practically in this sites DNA 01/31/2020, 7:57am PST NEW
                                                        Re: ... by Vested Id 01/30/2020, 6:49pm PST NEW
                                                            Re: ... by Jack Bauer 01/30/2020, 7:04pm PST NEW
                                                            Re: ... by Dick Clownshoes 01/30/2020, 7:23pm PST NEW
                                                                All your kaufmanesque etc etc is scaring away the racist dum dums. NT by You'd better shape up buddy. 01/30/2020, 7:55pm PST NEW
                                                                Shut it down by laudablepuss 01/30/2020, 8:28pm PST NEW
                                                                    Re: Shut it down by Vested Id 01/30/2020, 8:40pm PST NEW
                                                                I don't have a problem with deleting shitposts but I worry about slippery slope by blackwater 01/30/2020, 10:19pm PST NEW
                                                                    I think the fairest (no offense) solution would be a ratio system. by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 01/30/2020, 11:04pm PST NEW
                                                                        Re: I think the fairest (no offense) solution would be a ratio system. by Mysterio 01/31/2020, 7:15am PST NEW
                                                                There is no old guard. They all left by Trump dicksucker 01/31/2020, 1:09pm PST NEW
                                                                    Shitposting is a single man's game. I'm getting married this year. by WITTGENSTEIN 01/31/2020, 2:14pm PST NEW
                                                                Re: ... by Roop 01/31/2020, 5:58pm PST NEW
                                                        So fucking selfish by Ulrachi 01/31/2020, 7:57am PST NEW
                                                            Who's selfish? by Vested Id 01/31/2020, 9:05am PST NEW
                                                                I'm just curious what the rules are. MM hates Catholics, MM-haters hate Contrap by so is it just black ppl off limits? 01/31/2020, 9:22am PST NEW
                                                                    All are welcome, just don't be a f, a goddamn fruit NT by Vested Id 01/31/2020, 9:47am PST NEW
                                                                Re: Who's selfish? by Ulrachi 01/31/2020, 10:12am PST NEW
                                                                    Re: Who's selfish? by Trolly is a professional troll y'kn 01/31/2020, 11:05am PST NEW
                                                                        Re: Who's selfish? by Ulrachi 01/31/2020, 11:53am PST NEW
                                                                            Yelling Ban this prick is you getting trolled. Sorry to be the one to tell you by Trolly is a professional troll y'kn 01/31/2020, 12:08pm PST NEW
                                                                    Re: Who's selfish? by Lawrence Dumont 01/31/2020, 7:46pm PST NEW
                                            What are your thoughts on Voat, Mr. Vested? NT by Mysterio 01/30/2020, 2:36pm PST NEW
                                                Guys, guys guys! by Voat.com/caltrops 01/30/2020, 7:22pm PST NEW
                            I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE NT by Zseni 01/29/2020, 11:32am PST NEW
                            FUCK OFF NIGGERFAG NT by JUST FUCK RIGHT OFF 01/30/2020, 12:00pm PST NEW
                                You're banned NT by Dick Clownshoes 01/30/2020, 1:10pm PST NEW
                                    Good. by Eury 01/30/2020, 1:23pm PST NEW
                                        nigger this, nigger that, nigga please by nigga check that ho 01/31/2020, 7:46am PST NEW
                                            classic. have my upvotes good sir NT by Mysterio 04/26/2023, 5:47pm PDT NEW
    Re: Are the Creexuls still alive? by J'accuse! 01/27/2020, 7:53pm PST NEW
        Re: Are the Creexuls still alive? by Mysterio 01/28/2020, 4:48am PST NEW
    They've been banned from everything. NT by Eury 01/27/2020, 9:09pm PST NEW
        What's "everything"? by Vested Id 01/28/2020, 6:36am PST NEW
            Where is their tumblr? NT by Eury 01/28/2020, 9:13am PST NEW
                I mean the Princess Highground tumblr by Vested Id 01/28/2020, 9:22am PST NEW
                Click here by Jsoh 01/29/2020, 2:08pm PST NEW
                    Disgusting NT by Eury 01/30/2020, 7:05pm PST NEW
                        With that attitude by J'accuse! 01/30/2020, 11:24pm PST NEW
                        Maybe you're just too stupid to get it? NT by Trolly is a professional troll y'kn 01/31/2020, 8:29am PST NEW
                            Trolly did nothing wrong by J'accuse 01/31/2020, 12:01pm PST NEW
                                Re: Trolly did nothing wrong by Eury 01/31/2020, 3:42pm PST NEW
                    Edgy as fuck NT by Mysterio 01/31/2020, 7:17am PST NEW
 
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