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Those are ridiculous comparisons and you know it. by Mischief Maker 05/27/2016, 5:23pm PDT
fabio wrote:

I'm with Patrice O'Neal's opinion of puzzlement on why everyone says Waterworld was a terrible movie. Where was this "crap movie but ACTION SCENES!" attitude back then? The plot of Waterworld was serviceable and the action scenes/sets were top notch.


People were in a vengeful mood with Costner after he was the one actor to phone in his performance in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, a movie that should have been a classic. How sad is it when you get out-acted by Christian Slater, fer cryin' out loud?



Pacific Rim even stunk in the action department. Every scene was dark with water spray covering the majority of action. Again, why couldn't the actual movie be the news clips where we got to see brief seconds of a much more interesting daylight fight?


Because the CGI was more convincing in night scenes than daytime, probably. Also, did you miss the whole battle scene taking place in brightly-lit downtown Hong Kong?

If you think there should have been even more giant robot fights, I heartily agree. Again, like most godzilla movies, the entire point of the talking people scenes is to pad the running time between the action setpieces.

How much time passed between the opening fight and the 2nd (aka the "real climax")? An hour? 80 minutes? Jesus what a dog shit boring slog. 80 minutes of the dud protagonist learning to love again, dealing with PTSD, dealing with cancer, dealing with budget cuts, and wacky unfunny scientist hijinks. They couldn't fill that time with anything remotely interesting? Practice bouts with the asshole Australian robot team? Satiric talk show interviews as teased in the news clips? Whoops, already blew the satire quota on the hamfisted immigrants/wall commentary.


Yeah, your story idea is better, I agree. However...

Shit plot, shit action: Matrix sequels, Star Wars prequels, Transformers, Pacific Rim


Terrible comparisons.

Everything story-wise in Pacific Rim was related to Giant Robots punching giant monsters. The conflicts between the characters were all about how to best go about having the giant robots punch said giant monsters. Were the performances weak and the stories uninteresting? Fair enough, but it told a complete and cohesive story, which for the standards of Godzilla movies is damn near miraculous.

Unlike the Matrix sequels, character motivations and the ultimate goal were crystal clear from the get-go.
Unlike the Star Wars prequels, there were clear protagonists and antagonists and there were actual lives at stake in the conflict.
Unlike Transformers, there were no robot-themed pee and fart jokes, nor any other attempts to be the poor-man's American Pie as played by a slumming Cohen Brothers cast that has nothing to do with the central conflict.
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Pacific Rim by Mischief Maker 05/24/2016, 7:28pm PDT NEW
    I hated it by fabio 05/25/2016, 2:31am PDT NEW
        Yeah, I agree totally. I'm judging by the action scenes mainly. by Mischief Maker 05/25/2016, 4:30am PDT NEW
            Matrix Revolutions had a great Zion battle action scene!!! by fabio 05/27/2016, 2:44pm PDT NEW
                I was surprised when I heard Waterworld was generally seen as a bad movie, by artist formerly known as Eurotrash 05/27/2016, 5:10pm PDT NEW
                    When movies cost too much people get weird by Vested Id 05/27/2016, 5:30pm PDT NEW
                Those are ridiculous comparisons and you know it. by Mischief Maker 05/27/2016, 5:23pm PDT NEW
                    Who enjoyed the human parts of a Godzilla movie? NT by fabio 05/28/2016, 12:57am PDT NEW
                        That's been my point all along! NT by MM 05/28/2016, 7:39am PDT NEW
                            So 90% of the movie was a complete snoozefest by fabio 05/28/2016, 1:41pm PDT NEW
                                Rambo 4 is just fucking great, love it by artist formerly known as Eurotrash 05/28/2016, 6:47pm PDT NEW
                                But Rambo 4's action scenes are not THE BEST for their subgenre. by Mischief Maker 05/29/2016, 6:12am PDT NEW
                The action scenes in the Matrix Reloaded were shit? Ok by laudablepuss 05/27/2016, 9:12pm PDT NEW
                    It's a lot harder to get people to connect with horseshit like Hamlet than say, NT by fabio 05/28/2016, 12:40am PDT NEW
                        Nice passive aggressive argument by laudablepuss 05/28/2016, 12:04pm PDT NEW
                            You don't know what passive aggressive means NT by much like good movie writing 05/28/2016, 1:39pm PDT NEW
                                Are you sure? by laudablepuss 05/28/2016, 4:41pm PDT NEW
        I HATED IT n/t NT by "FABIO" more like FAG-IO 05/31/2016, 5:38am PDT NEW
            ^ the wit of Pacific Rim fans by fabio 05/31/2016, 6:37am PDT NEW
                Why do you guys mess with fabio? It only makes you look dumb. by Mysterio 05/31/2016, 11:21am PDT NEW
                Why don't you go get a Pacific Rim-job from some teen hustler by "FABIO" more like FAG-IO 06/05/2016, 12:35am PDT NEW
    Re: Pacific Rim by Oom Shnibble 05/25/2016, 3:12am PDT NEW
    I loved it. NT by pinback 05/25/2016, 7:19am PDT NEW
        Re: I loved it. by Mischief Shai-hulud 05/25/2016, 2:52pm PDT NEW
 
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