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If there were a dependable fashion in which to defend a simple tax code from becoming complicated with even an ounce of fairness to the taxed, it'd have existed in human society by now. We've done it with force and without fairness at times - read some Roman history and you'll find out about it, then you can tell me how great it is to have the patricians in charge to ensure you're well-treated.
There's always complications that result from success. Like Rome, Bourboun France got big enough that different peoples and traditions and laws had to be respected. The differences arose not merely from advantage but from geopolitical differences because the woodland's produce of timber for building naval vessels is different from the wheat fields' produce and they're not owned by the same people and the logistics for exploiting the resources differ. And in France, they created such complexity from the interplay of the involved economies that the state had to contract out legislation and justice to the locals, let alone the maddening complexity of tax collection, which was an outcome of all these groups interacting. The sheer scale of the state was enough to make them adopt tax farm policy because it was more practical than doing it themselves by a huge factor - the crown couldn't collect the taxes itself because the crown was in Paris and Paris was far enough from the periphery that the long arm of the law looked stumpy.
America is bigger, far more complex - robots do legal discovery and have probably started drafting legislation, the teachers of law teach procedure more than anything else - and far more logistically interdependent. You and I can no more grasp the complex interactions of parts of the cybereconomy than the kings of France.
You think reforming tax law is simple and doable, that a platform can ignore all this, that people's position in society can just be brushed aside in a political process when we expect not to be left behind by democracy? We already have a tax farm. The tax farm was a big part of what made the revolution capable of becoming so bloody, by the way.
Or we could overhaul today's East India Company, 'cause who the fuck needs Google. Thanks for the piercing observations of what today's society looks like from a rathole carved into the floor molding, your perspective is illuminating. |
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John Oliver so scared of Trump he'll say anything. by ja 02/29/2016, 4:02pm PST 
The Nimble Navigator by Make Mysterio Great Again 02/29/2016, 10:34pm PST
Yeah I finally got sick of the Hitler/Mussolini comparisons. by Worm 03/01/2016, 11:10am PST
I am so much more OK with Trump as opposed to Cruz and Rubio :( NT by laudablepuss 03/01/2016, 11:18am PST
Same here. by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/01/2016, 4:19pm PST
It's this kind of shit that drives people to him. by Souffle of Pain 03/01/2016, 7:57pm PST
Only an asshole would combine the words beneficial and generosity. NT by Worm 03/02/2016, 7:31am PST
Bernie supporters came to my door today by fucks 03/01/2016, 8:30pm PST
It's all metrics man, gotta get that data. NT by Worm 03/02/2016, 7:04am PST
Another factor that makes 3rd party runs a lot harder by laudablepuss 03/02/2016, 8:00am PST
Re: Bernie supporters came to my door today by MM 03/02/2016, 5:24pm PST
Norm making that comparison made it more legitimate for me NT by Vested Id 03/01/2016, 12:19pm PST
I think the Hitler comparisons are hilarious by skip 03/02/2016, 1:51pm PST
Re: I think the Hitler comparisons are hilarious by Make Mysterio Great Again 03/02/2016, 8:12pm PST
I hate Bernie supporters by first past the post voting 03/02/2016, 9:59pm PST
Re: I think the Hitler comparisons are hilarious by Vested Id 03/02/2016, 11:01pm PST
Clinton has a long legacy with the Black community by skip 03/04/2016, 7:43am PST
Re: Clinton has a long legacy with the Black community by Souffle of Pain 03/04/2016, 9:00am PST
Sanders supporters marvel at black propensity to vote counter to self-interest by Ray of Light 03/04/2016, 9:04am PST
Berners are the new Ron Paul fans NT by skip 03/04/2016, 9:39am PST
What are Bernie's batshit insane policies, then? by Entropy Stew 03/04/2016, 11:09am PST
I enjoy watching the batshit fans more. But their economic and foreign policies NT by are equivalently trash. 03/04/2016, 1:16pm PST
There's a big difference between "I don't agree with" and "this guy is nuts" NT by Entropy Stew 03/04/2016, 2:12pm PST
It's a good thing I only described their fans as nuts and limited the critique NT by of their ideas as trash. 03/05/2016, 5:41pm PST
Bernie's platform by blackwater 03/09/2016, 3:32pm PST
There isn't already a high rate of tax evasion? by Worm 03/09/2016, 3:56pm PST
Oh I guess it's not, whoops. NT by Worm 03/09/2016, 4:14pm PST
They've been officially for-profit less than a year NT by Vested Id 03/09/2016, 4:48pm PST
Simplifying the tax code would be great. If you think Bernie cares... by blackwater 03/10/2016, 12:08pm PST
Yeah using non-profit status to get rich, how dare I criticize such a practice. by Worm 03/10/2016, 12:49pm PST
OK let's take this one step at a time by blackwater 03/10/2016, 1:28pm PST
Just seems circular to me by Worm 03/10/2016, 4:01pm PST
It's not that easy to obfuscate earnings. by blackwater 03/11/2016, 1:45am PST
There are always more than two outcomes. Stop rationalizing like you have BPD by Welcome to Omsk 03/15/2016, 9:57am PDT
Pretty sure I'm disagreeing with the tax reform guy, but whatever. by Worm 03/15/2016, 10:17am PDT
Did you need three more posts to clarify who you're disagreeing with too? Spaz. by Welcome to Omsk 03/15/2016, 11:22am PDT
I'm not saying tax reform is easy is all, that seemed to be your major issue. by Worm 03/15/2016, 11:46am PDT
You need tax reform to implement progressive taxation. by blackwater 03/15/2016, 1:25pm PDT
I'm not saying tax reform is easy is all, that seemed to be your major issue. by Souffle of Pain 03/15/2016, 2:07pm PDT
Haha ok NT by laudablepuss 03/15/2016, 2:39pm PDT
Drinking deep from the river Cable NT by Entropy Stew 03/15/2016, 4:58pm PDT
Seriously. This shit is so retarded I'm half convinced Omsk & SoP are NT by Mischief ATORs 03/15/2016, 6:54pm PDT
For a regard I'm LAYING out my posts with strange clarity by Welcome to Omsk 03/15/2016, 3:47pm PDT
Why work on any of these skills just to talk to pieces of shit like you? lol NT by Worm 03/15/2016, 4:13pm PDT
Because you do not work on these skills, you only talk to pieces of shit by Welcome to Omsk 03/15/2016, 8:41pm PDT
Re: OK let's take this one step at a time by Souffle of Pain 03/11/2016, 2:59pm PST
Re: Bernie's platform by Fullofkittens 03/09/2016, 5:19pm PST
Single-payer healthcare is a good idea.Trying to bring back the 50s, not so much by blackwater 03/10/2016, 12:55pm PST
Re: Single-payer healthcare is a good idea.Trying to bring back the 50s, not s by Rafiki 03/10/2016, 2:57pm PST
Re: I think the Hitler comparisons are hilarious by Worm 03/03/2016, 11:53am PST
Re: The Nimble Navigator by Roop 03/01/2016, 11:55pm PST
SUPERDELEGATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Worm 03/02/2016, 7:01am PST
If there's four candidates, two of each party, that would work in theory. by Mysterio 03/02/2016, 7:15am PST
That's how it was supposed to go in 2000 by MM 03/02/2016, 5:27pm PST
mwa ha ha ha! NT by first past the post voting 03/02/2016, 9:41pm PST
My vote's with Trump by Retardio 03/01/2016, 2:10pm PST
Re: John Oliver so scared of Trump he'll say anything. by Souffle of Pain 03/03/2016, 11:25am PST
I think they know what they're doing by fabio 03/04/2016, 2:07pm PST
The writers must be desperate by Delicous Bread and Circuses 03/04/2016, 10:31pm PST
#Trumplestiltskin NT by Worm 03/04/2016, 11:41pm PST
Re: I think they know what they're doing by Mysterio 03/06/2016, 9:40am PST
Do you know what YOU'RE doing? by Mischief Maker 03/06/2016, 10:34am PST
Re: Do you know what YOU'RE doing? by Mysterio 03/06/2016, 11:16am PST
Re: Do you know what YOU'RE doing? by another Mysterio 03/06/2016, 1:49pm PST
MM tell me more policy doom prophecies by Revenue Services cooked HDDs 03/06/2016, 2:51pm PST
'twasn't me! NT by MM 03/06/2016, 4:31pm PST
Re: MM tell me more policy doom prophecies by that other Mysterio again 03/07/2016, 1:04pm PST
Re: MM tell me more policy doom prophecies by Mysterio 03/07/2016, 1:19pm PST
Re: MM tell me more policy doom prophecies by that other Mysterio again 03/07/2016, 2:28pm PST
I want Gawker to die screaming, other mysterio NT by Glenn from Habbo 03/07/2016, 2:42pm PST
It's worth paying attention to his economic policies by skip 03/07/2016, 1:38pm PST
None of the Republican candidates have reasonable budget proposals by blackwater 03/09/2016, 3:55pm PST
Obamacare dropped the cost of individual health plans by half before subsidies NT by I'm sick of your lies 03/11/2016, 12:38pm PST
I think he's literally just talking about the website not working. by Worm 03/11/2016, 12:45pm PST
He is being a pretty big talking point dummy with this by libertopia 03/11/2016, 1:58pm PST
Hahaha, yeah that stupid website not working sure doesn't matter to people by Souffle of Pain 03/11/2016, 2:53pm PST
I dunno I managed it somehow. NT by Worm 03/11/2016, 3:55pm PST
them fuckers in iraq are still dead though NT by Worm 03/11/2016, 4:09pm PST
A website not working correctly at launch to provide a service previously not by libertopia 03/11/2016, 5:02pm PST
Re: A website not working correctly at launch to provide a service previo by Souffle of Pain 03/11/2016, 7:23pm PST
Re: A website not working correctly at launch to provide a service previo by The Happiness Engine 03/12/2016, 10:07am PST
Re: A website not working correctly at launch to provide a service previo by Souffle of Pain 03/12/2016, 10:23am PST
You're a retard. by Worm 03/12/2016, 11:36am PST
Re: You're a retard. by Souffle of Pain 03/12/2016, 11:50am PST
Why did I have to set up my plan in the first day of open enrollment? by Worm 03/12/2016, 12:09pm PST
Oh actually that was the determination for my subsidy. by Worm 03/12/2016, 12:19pm PST
Er, delete an old account, the one I got those files from is my current one. by Worm 03/12/2016, 12:22pm PST
*ether. In closing: fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck y NT by Worm 03/12/2016, 12:24pm PST
Oy. Four posts to explain how easy it was to get registered. Sounds like by Souffle of Pain 03/12/2016, 12:26pm PST
Yeah two because it was so fucking simple I forgot when I did it. by Worm 03/12/2016, 12:36pm PST
This right here is where people decided to die on the wrong hill by Welcome to Omsk 03/15/2016, 10:27am PDT
Yeah, cause someone couldn't have just called the fucking phone number NT by if the website's down 03/14/2016, 10:42am PDT
That post was more than a little bit facetious by blackwater 05/03/2016, 11:11pm PDT
If we didn't have two cycles of literally calling Obama the Anti-Christ by Worm 03/06/2016, 11:05am PST
Good point, good point. by Mysterio 03/06/2016, 11:22am PST
If Vince McMahon was running would you vote for him or Trump? NT by fabio 03/06/2016, 1:45pm PST
I admit that's a good way to put it. NT by Mysterio 03/06/2016, 8:54pm PST
I talked to some other people online about Trump by Mysterio 03/08/2016, 10:19am PST
McMahon all the way. If there's one thing carnies do, it's make money. NT by The Happiness Engine 03/07/2016, 4:17pm PST
Yes but Trump has a ... by hey wait a minute! 03/08/2016, 10:00am PST
Trump cancels a rally in Chicago due to protestors by skip 03/11/2016, 10:20pm PST
"They" have decided the general public needs to be angry about Trump by Roop 03/12/2016, 12:17pm PST
Anita cancels university talk because of death threats by fabio 03/12/2016, 12:38pm PST
Re: Trump cancels a rally in Chicago due to protestors by MM 03/12/2016, 2:05pm PST
Yes, they were involved in a violent protest. You think it would have been NT by better if he had shown up? 03/12/2016, 2:18pm PST
8============D NT by put it in your mowf you fuckin quee 03/12/2016, 2:34pm PST
Up is down by fabio 03/12/2016, 2:38pm PST
Yeah and charged with assault after the police realize the story had traction. NT by Worm 03/12/2016, 2:44pm PST
"The man got caried away. He obviously loves his country." by what a piece of shit 03/13/2016, 11:30am PDT
Re: "The man got caried away. He obviously loves his country." NT by Grrr, only vote who I approve of 03/13/2016, 1:59pm PDT
I dunno, so you want to murder black people? by Worm 03/13/2016, 2:17pm PDT
It's like the Hillary voter saying they don't have to tell you their reasoning by MM 03/13/2016, 4:14pm PDT
Re: It's like the Hillary voter saying they don't have to tell by Grrr, only vote who I approve of 03/13/2016, 8:24pm PDT
The one idiot we're basing this opinions on is Donald Trump. by Worm 03/13/2016, 9:01pm PDT
Things are heating up now by Make Mysterio Great Again 03/13/2016, 11:49pm PDT
Re: Things are heating up now by MM 03/14/2016, 12:21am PDT
What knife? by Worm 03/14/2016, 10:47am PDT
Seriously though is Trump the exclusive candidate of garbage human beings? by Worm 03/14/2016, 11:01am PDT
You just don't realize you're a pawn of the Conspiracy. NT by The Church of the SubGenius 03/14/2016, 11:14am PDT
Re: What knife? by Mischief Maker 03/14/2016, 12:51pm PDT
Even if Trump is shit, an angered base is a voting base. Whose NT by mind does this change? 03/13/2016, 4:32pm PDT
On further reflection, this potentially would sway NT by Sanders-then-Trump voters. 03/13/2016, 5:39pm PDT
So Trump will win 41% (his repug support) or 50% (approx. national repub %) NT by So 20.5% in Generral, a "landslide" 03/14/2016, 1:22pm PDT
So Trump will win 41% (his repug support) OF 50% (approx. national repub %) NT by So 20.5% in General, a "landslide" 03/14/2016, 1:22pm PDT
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