The oldest fansite in Fallout history, a community that loves the Fallout universe more than anything else in the world, has thoroughly rejected Bethesda’s take on the fiction.

One NMA user writing under the name Mobucks just listed out some of the supposed sins of the Bethesda take on Fallout: “The 200 year old food. The abandoned, wood-framed, blown-in-half houses which would have rotted to dust in 50 years. The existence of wood-framed anything still standing 200 years after a nuclear assault leveled the area. [Fallout 3] is a completely grade-school level of thinking of what a post-nuclear society would be like. All flash, no substance.”

And another: “[Fallout 3] made me lower my standards in gaming just so I could play through this bloody thing, and it still ended up disappointing me,” wrote Autonomousoblast

“I am still not convinced that you can be empowered by a game that refuses to acknowledge your agency, to take your actions into account,” wrote Naosanno. “In the end, no matter what you do, you will be prisoner of what the developers expected you to do.”