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by Lizard_King 10/22/2014, 4:59am PDT |
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Gameghazi is the gamer's manifestation of the phenomenon described here, once you discount the people who actually, literally consider harassment, stalking, doxxing, and threats of rape and violence entertainment or hobbies. The key part is here:
The point here is that we have a significant segment of the population that is no longer able to answer the question "What do you think/believe/feel/judge?" by saying what it is they really actually think or believe or feel or judge. Their response to any question is to calculate what that question means in terms of the zero-sum game and then to offer the answer they think will be strategically best for scoring points in that game.
This is a fundamentally disingenuous way of talking, voting and living and it's not possible to approach all those things disingenuously without that dishonesty and duplicity coming to shape, stunt and distort one's own thinking.
Constantly arguing in bad faith leads to thinking in bad faith and
to living in bad faith, until bad faith is all you've got left. Calculation becomes habit, that habit supplants thought and one winds up in the perverse circumstance of earnestly arguing for the goodness of oil spills.
Just sub in "hmm, yes, threatening someone with rape is indeed a reasonable way to kick off a conversation about journalistic ethics, and why not root my totally coincidental interest in The Objectively Provable [lack of] Quality of Depression Quest in an ex-boyfriend siccing 4 chan on the woman who made him sad." Or "People who understand chilling effects on discourse in terms of gender, race, and other variables are really just condescending to women and minorities; it's my moral obligation to use those slurs and trot out rape jokes in order to defend their right to be treated equitably." And so on.
There is no threat to gaming presented by indie games being shitty, whether or not they actually are, even if someone somewhere says something you disagree with on a blog. There is no threat to gaming presented by a criticism of sexist tropes in gaming. There is no threat to gaming presented by women participating in and talking about games without having torrents of harassment poured on them, which is really the only "special" standard being asked for by people who are critical of gamerghazi.
If you are concerned about money and inappropriate influence in gaming journalism, more power to you. But it has nothing to do with why gamerghazi exists, and you don't want to pretend you have a symbiotic relationship with these people when you have evidence all around you from your own interactions with them that they are manipulating the standards of good faith conversation towards unethical and potentially dangerous ends. That's not my summary, that's literally how these operations are planned from the get go, whether it's using "bullying" as leverage with Adobe or pretending than the scale of abuse dropped on Quinn or Sarkeesian are for anything other than being women.
All you have to do to stop saying oil spills are good is stop saying oil spills are good.
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Honest question. Does anyone actually enjoy this place? by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/18/2014, 12:21pm PDT 
Yes I like it :) by Mysterio 10/18/2014, 12:29pm PDT 
If we didn't like it why would anybody post here. We can't all enjoy sodomy. NT by WITTGENSTEIN 10/18/2014, 12:56pm PDT 
I like the posts about games. and entertainment by Rafiki 10/18/2014, 3:23pm PDT 
Yes, but a site is what you make of it, right? by I don't have a twit account 10/18/2014, 5:11pm PDT 
Which part of that were you j/k-ing about? I hope it was all of it :( by Jerry Whorebach 10/18/2014, 6:08pm PDT 
Re: I like the posts about games. and entertainment by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/21/2014, 7:04pm PDT 
I enjoy the game reviews, movies reviews, and some other stuff by blackwater 10/18/2014, 7:03pm PDT 
Re: I enjoy the game reviews, movies reviews, and some other stuff by WITTGENSTEIN 10/18/2014, 7:12pm PDT 
It sounds like you want to isolate the Cables in the Ebola ward by Entropy Stew 10/19/2014, 10:57am PDT 
Worse than that. Let's put them in.... the TDARCOS chamber. NT by blackwater 10/20/2014, 11:18pm PDT 
I think their mother already did that by Entropy Stew 10/21/2014, 3:09am PDT 
My only issue is that I don't have enough time nor do you have enough interest by Worm 10/18/2014, 10:28pm PDT 
Please let's not have the place die because Zseni had (another) meltdown by fabio 10/18/2014, 11:28pm PDT 
Yes. by Mischief Maker 10/19/2014, 4:30am PDT 
Oh no don't subject yourself to that one! by Worm 10/19/2014, 4:51am PDT 
Re: Please let's not have the place die because Zseni had (another) meltdown by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/21/2014, 7:07pm PDT 
I think caltrops has been very enjoyable the last few months by Entropy Stew 10/19/2014, 11:40am PDT 
Re: I think caltrops has been very enjoyable the last few months by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/21/2014, 7:09pm PDT 
Re: I think caltrops has been very enjoyable the last few months by Entropy Stew 10/22/2014, 7:32am PDT 
Re: Honest question. Does anyone actually enjoy this place? by TAFKAM 10/19/2014, 12:36pm PDT 
Re: Honest question. Does anyone actually enjoy this place? by TAFKAM 10/19/2014, 12:38pm PDT 
We operate surprisingly well despite the high levels of dysfunction. All credit NT by to ICJ. Entropy Stew 10/19/2014, 12:45pm PDT 
Someone exploded over something on Twitter. *HOME ALONE FACE SLAP* CALL CNN by Eurotrash 10/19/2014, 12:49pm PDT 
If Zseni got mad at me about that shit and Jonesy did shut down the site though by WITTGENSTEIN 10/20/2014, 10:58am PDT 
I get a lot of value out of it. by Fullofkittens 10/19/2014, 2:57pm PDT 
Re: I get a lot of value out of it. by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/21/2014, 9:20am PDT 
Re: Honest question. Does anyone actually enjoy this place? by CattleHumper 10/20/2014, 9:29am PDT 
This is my favorite site on the Internet by The Happiness Engine 10/20/2014, 3:38pm PDT 
Thanks, guys. NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/21/2014, 7:10pm PDT 
A Legion of 2 by Mysterio 10/20/2014, 5:28pm PDT 
Yeah, I kind of dropped off by I need clarification 10/20/2014, 10:29am PDT 
I only buy pro-women, anti-GG handjobs from empowered twitter sex workers NT by INC the punter 10/20/2014, 4:04pm PDT 
I'm determined to remain the same developmental age until I learn how to regress NT by Why would anyone leave this site? 10/20/2014, 8:40pm PDT 
INC actually is a monger though, so it's 'ironic' when he big ups feminism NT by can i pay to bang you 10/20/2014, 9:36pm PDT 
Is, was, whatever. The important thing is dodging the question NT by Am I right broseph?! 10/20/2014, 11:19pm PDT 
What question? Do you want nude reverse or just topless? NT by That'll be $20 more 10/21/2014, 11:51am PDT 
Re: Yeah, I kind of dropped off by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/21/2014, 9:16am PDT 
*FACEPALM* by Mischief Maker 10/21/2014, 10:31am PDT 
God, there's still zseni dick pics in that thread by Entropy Stew 10/21/2014, 1:06pm PDT 
Re: *FACEPALM* by mysteriobama 10/21/2014, 8:46pm PDT 
Re: Yeah, I kind of dropped off by WITTGENSTEIN 10/21/2014, 12:43pm PDT 
We had to destroy Zseni's opinions to save them by fabio 10/21/2014, 1:27pm PDT 
It's been better but still worth visiting. by Last 10/20/2014, 11:14am PDT 
Re: Honest question. Does anyone actually enjoy this place? by Lizard_King 10/21/2014, 5:08am PDT 
Re: Honest question. Does anyone actually enjoy this place? by Lizard_King 10/21/2014, 5:11am PDT 
Re: Honest question. Does anyone actually enjoy this place? by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/21/2014, 9:01am PDT 
Re: Honest question. Does anyone actually enjoy this place? by Lizard_King 10/21/2014, 10:38am PDT 
You don't get to decide what gamergate is about. by blackwater 10/23/2014, 11:58pm PDT 
Good point. by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/24/2014, 6:43am PDT 
Re: Good point. by Roop 10/24/2014, 9:25pm PDT 
Right. I tweet once every other day from one of four accounts. GARBAGE DAY! NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/24/2014, 9:40pm PDT 
What the fuck is a "gamerghazi"? NT by Kenji Carter 10/21/2014, 7:12am PDT 
A gamergate play on words referring to the Benghazi scandal/fuckup by Entropy Stew 10/21/2014, 8:47am PDT 
Right. by Lizard_King 10/21/2014, 11:10am PDT 
Bioshock Infinite _IS_ a smart game for smart gamers! NT by Reformed Misogynist 10/21/2014, 11:12am PDT 
Gamergate is cynical, selfish and DANGEROUS by totally not moral panic 10/21/2014, 11:50am PDT 
Re: Gamergate is cynical, selfish and DANGEROUS by Mr. Yuks 10/21/2014, 11:59am PDT 
Gamers? I heard they were dead by Entropy Stew 10/21/2014, 1:56pm PDT 
You know what the anti #gamergate backlash reminds me of? by Mischief Maker 10/21/2014, 2:15pm PDT 
People who oppose racism are the real racists NT by Rush "Gamergate" Limbaugh 10/21/2014, 3:05pm PDT 
How quickly we forget... NT by Howard the Duck 10/21/2014, 3:10pm PDT 
You're right, George Lucas is a black filmmaker whose movies never fail! NT by Not a Racist 10/21/2014, 6:10pm PDT 
You even managed to convince the knee-jerk agreement guy by Lizard_King 10/24/2014, 8:10am PDT 
Maybe THIS analogy would be more fitting? by Mischief Maker 10/24/2014, 9:55am PDT 
GamerGate was co-opted from day 1 by MRA fuckwits by Arbit 10/22/2014, 11:21pm PDT 
Chicken & Egg puzzler: Did leaving 'trops turn INC and LK into fags, or reverse? NT by Mischief Maker 10/21/2014, 8:33am PDT 
I realize time was short but do better than calling pro-female posters gay NT by bad comeback fairy 10/21/2014, 10:56am PDT 
Haha yeah man, it ain't cool to use fag as an insult. by fairy who sucks cock in truckstops 10/21/2014, 11:14am PDT 
It's like I don't even recognize this place anymore. All the sides have changed by WITTGENSTEIN 10/21/2014, 12:00pm PDT 
Motherhood has mellowed INC. LK has Stockholm syndrome. NT by They still have a point though :( 10/21/2014, 4:12pm PDT 
Caltrops reifies privilege NT by The Cables, worm, all so privileged 10/21/2014, 11:52am PDT 
Your post reflects the state of this thing in a nutshell by fabio 10/21/2014, 4:08pm PDT 
Maybe #gamergate is a Rorschach blot? by Mischief Maker 10/21/2014, 5:23pm PDT 
Pretty much my feelings on the matter. See also: My review of The Uncle who etc NT by WITTGENSTEIN 10/21/2014, 6:24pm PDT 
Beautifully stated. NT by Leaped Frog 10/21/2014, 7:02pm PDT 
Zoe was more the knife that cut the Gordian knot by fabio 10/21/2014, 8:21pm PDT 
People who reject sexism are the real sexists NT by Rush "Gamergate" Limbaugh 10/21/2014, 5:30pm PDT 
You're right, women need to be shielded from upsetting ideas. Like children! NT by Not a Misogynist 10/21/2014, 6:02pm PDT 
NOT sending death threats is the real misogyny! NT by you'll never win with that argume 10/21/2014, 6:10pm PDT 
The Westboro Baptists Church gets dozens of death threats a day. Therefore only NT by scum disagrees with them. 10/21/2014, 6:26pm PDT 
You're right, criticizing a game's design is exactly like a death threat! NT by Not a Drama Queen 10/21/2014, 6:41pm PDT 
Why won't gamers apologize for death threats? NT by 9/11 mosque 10/21/2014, 6:28pm PDT 
I need a few days to think of a reply to this one. by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/21/2014, 7:14pm PDT 
Re: I need a few days to think of a reply to this one. by Lizard_King 10/22/2014, 4:59am PDT 
Re: moderation by Lizard_King 10/22/2014, 5:32am PDT 
LK apparently thinks Caltrops IS the Phantom Zone by WITTGENSTEIN 10/22/2014, 6:37am PDT 
You pretty much said it yourself, above. by Lizard_King 10/22/2014, 7:25am PDT 
It's been almost a week and my Twitter account STILL hasn't been suspended by WITTGENSTEIN 10/22/2014, 9:01am PDT 
C. Twitter avoids doing anything about harassment where possible by Lizard_King 10/22/2014, 1:43pm PDT 
Allow me to reply to your well-written 500 word essay: FUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU by WITTGENSTEIN 10/22/2014, 1:53pm PDT 
Everyone agrees that threatening people online is bad & illegal, though. NT by Gutsby 10/22/2014, 3:19pm PDT 
Re: Everyone agrees that threatening people online is bad & illegal, though. by Lizard_King 10/22/2014, 7:23pm PDT 
The context that enables it is the pseudo-anonymity of the internet by Entropy Stew 10/23/2014, 8:22am PDT 
I was going to make the point that anonymity enables it too by Rafiki 10/23/2014, 9:09am PDT 
I didn't hear about the Zelda Williams thing. Disgusting. NT by Entropy Stew 10/23/2014, 9:23am PDT 
That's a pretty shit summary by the CSM by Arbit 10/23/2014, 11:45am PDT 
Of those, the only actual outliers are stalking and sexual harassment by WITTGENSTEIN 10/23/2014, 12:05pm PDT 
Anonymity helps, but I think it's mainly the force multiplier effect by Lizard_King 10/24/2014, 8:20am PDT 
Arrest Kthor! NT by Mischief Maker 10/23/2014, 4:44am PDT 
Re: It's been almost a week and my Twitter account STILL hasn't been suspended by TAFKAM 10/24/2014, 4:24am PDT 
So your opportunity for brilliant discourse was outweighed by needless vitriol by serial malcontent 10/22/2014, 8:37am PDT 
Re: moderation by Jerry Whorebach 10/23/2014, 1:53am PDT 
If you make a poll where people can say "fuck you", a lot of people will. NT by Gutsby 10/22/2014, 6:02am PDT 
Haha so hold on so the Adobe thing was a plot from the beginning? by Worm 10/22/2014, 6:32am PDT 
Who is crying foul? by Lizard_King 10/22/2014, 7:14am PDT 
ITT LK recites Leigh Alexander's Gamerasutra "Gamers is Dead" piece until we NT by stop arguing with him 10/22/2014, 7:24am PDT 
Why on earth do people want to enable misogynist harassment? NT by Gutsby 10/22/2014, 8:35am PDT 
Knocking down others makes them feel better about themselves, among others by Last 10/23/2014, 5:57am PDT 
I seems like the ultimate panacea for all issues is agreeing with you. by Worm 10/22/2014, 10:17am PDT 
That would be a start, sure. by Lizard_King 10/22/2014, 2:22pm PDT 
They can sure fuck shit up by not moral panic 10/22/2014, 2:42pm PDT 
Watch your tone. by Lizard_King 10/22/2014, 2:52pm PDT 
Gaped! by Cubey 10/28/2014, 8:43am PDT 
These SJWs sure are dangerous! Good thing me and my GG pals are here to save the NT by definitely not moral panic 10/22/2014, 11:38pm PDT 
^what Stalin would refer to as a "useful idiot" NT by kate leth 10/22/2014, 11:51pm PDT 
^what Mussolini would refer to as a "shit eating moron" by definitely not moral panic 10/23/2014, 11:09am PDT 
Oh well I'm sure you guys will win just like you won against the Tea Party. NT by Worm 10/22/2014, 3:26pm PDT 
Re: I need a few days to think of a reply to this one. by A FRIEND 10/22/2014, 6:33am PDT 
Worse than anyone could imagine? by Really? 10/22/2014, 9:05am PDT 
Yeah, I think this is it. by Gutsby 10/22/2014, 9:35am PDT 
No one things Depression Quest succeeded or failed because of the sex scandal by serial malcontent 10/22/2014, 10:22am PDT 
To claim noninvolvement is to support the status quo. NT by Mischief Maker 10/22/2014, 12:37pm PDT 
Individual advocacy has done nothing to change it, that's for institutions. by serial malcontent 10/22/2014, 1:05pm PDT 
So are we debating Gamersgate here, WITTGENSTEIN shitposting on Twitter or NT by whether Caltrops is a toxic site? 10/22/2014, 1:38pm PDT 
I'm making a case for people here to consider dropping a topic, site's fine. by serial malcontent 10/22/2014, 4:44pm PDT 
You're the one most actively keeping this thread going, at the moment. NT by Mischief Maker 10/22/2014, 4:53pm PDT 
I'm sure ICJ will thank me for the activity. NT by serial malcontent 10/22/2014, 10:40pm PDT 
It's true, I will. by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/24/2014, 2:41pm PDT 
you have admin access and know how long I've been reading/posting, no need to NT by thank me 10/24/2014, 11:27pm PDT 
The database by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/25/2014, 11:18am PDT 
Cynicism is the anal lube of the masses. NT by Mischief Maker 10/22/2014, 1:45pm PDT 
Maybe, but blind optimism is your condom-pinholing boyfriend. NT by serial michel de certeau 10/22/2014, 4:46pm PDT 
Haha, that's the "with us or against us" of radical leftism. NT by Gutsby 10/22/2014, 1:14pm PDT 
No, that's "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." NT by Mischief Maker 10/22/2014, 1:40pm PDT 
With so many people with purple hair on the case, victory is around the bend! by Worm 10/22/2014, 3:24pm PDT 
Hey now it's Jsoh 2.0 by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/22/2014, 2:27pm PDT 
I think this is what happens when you're really really tired. by Gutsby 10/22/2014, 3:43pm PDT 
Re: Worse than anyone could imagine? by fabio 10/22/2014, 12:20pm PDT 
Re: Worse than anyone could imagine? by Really? 10/22/2014, 12:36pm PDT 
Haha, great, another battleground for Americans to have binary political debates by Go Home Malala 10/22/2014, 2:08pm PDT 
you're already isolated in the ebola camp with the rest of us NT by serial malcontent 10/22/2014, 4:35pm PDT 
Re: Worse than anyone could imagine? by A FRIEND 10/22/2014, 1:26pm PDT 
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's every industry. by Fullofkittens 10/22/2014, 5:40pm PDT 
This is the root of all totalitarian traction. NT by Gutsby 10/22/2014, 5:53pm PDT 
Re: Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's every industry. by A FRIEND 10/22/2014, 6:13pm PDT 
This #gamersgate discussion is fascinating by Mischief Maker 10/22/2014, 6:38pm PDT 
Statement of principles: by Fullofkittens 10/22/2014, 6:59pm PDT 
You realize your argument is NVR4GT NT by 9/11 mosque 10/22/2014, 7:02pm PDT 
I don't understand this by Fullofkittens 10/22/2014, 7:07pm PDT 
I have never threatened anyone's life, but I'm vicariously invalidated to you? NT by Mischief Maker 10/22/2014, 7:28pm PDT 
Islam: Deserves the benefit of the doubt that it's not a monolithic entity by Gamers: KKK SHITLORDS 10/22/2014, 9:53pm PDT 
Gamers: Need more reflection and lambasting than the NFL. NT by Worm 10/22/2014, 10:47pm PDT 
Did I just win by Godwin's law? Or does it need to be actual Nazis? NT by Mischief Maker 10/23/2014, 3:31am PDT 
If not giving a shit about games journalism "invalidates you"...? by Fullofkittens 10/23/2014, 3:46am PDT 
I mean you, L_K and everyone else are hinging on an Association Fallacy. by Mischief Maker 10/23/2014, 4:48am PDT 
I don't give a shit about any part of GG other than the threats/silencing campai by Fullofkittens 10/23/2014, 5:14am PDT 
Were you worried when 4chan threatened Oprah with over 9000 penises NT by 9/11 mosque 10/23/2014, 6:08am PDT 
Re: I mean you, L_K and everyone else are hinging on an Association Fallacy. by Lizard_King 10/23/2014, 6:11am PDT 
tl;dr death threats tho NT by 9/11 mosque 10/23/2014, 6:41am PDT 
Also, "true believers" by 9/11 mosque 10/23/2014, 6:53am PDT 
Way to passive-aggressively prove my point! by Mischief Maker 10/23/2014, 10:00am PDT 
passive-agression, arguing from emotion, losing their mind when they hear "rape" by re: 10/24/2014, 1:09pm PDT 
Why are you being such a fucking pedant. by WITTGENSTEIN 10/23/2014, 6:35am PDT 
Re: Statement of principles: by A FRIEND 10/22/2014, 9:54pm PDT 
Re: Statement of principles: by Souffle of Pain 10/22/2014, 10:14pm PDT 
What do you expect to gain, exactly? by serial malcontent 10/22/2014, 11:23pm PDT 
Re: What do you expect to gain, exactly? by A FRIEND 10/23/2014, 10:48am PDT 
I might jump on your bandwagon, except I don't believe an apology will ever be by serial malcontent 10/23/2014, 2:07pm PDT 
I don't think you even have 2nd hand knowledge of how customer service works by fabio 10/24/2014, 7:15am PDT 
Yep: Apology followed by free shit to placate them and make them go away NT by Fullofkittens 10/24/2014, 7:41am PDT 
Not apologizing was an explicit part of my training, you placated without it. by serial malcontent 10/25/2014, 8:11am PDT 
Aaaaayou're fired. NT by Arthur Fonzarelli 10/25/2014, 11:59am PDT 
Re: Statement of principles: by Fullofkittens 10/23/2014, 3:49am PDT 
Then shitty games journalists are obligated to quit triggering them! NT by Mischief Maker 10/23/2014, 4:23am PDT 
I guess this is sort of the funniest thing. by Worm 10/23/2014, 9:48am PDT 
"Black people can't be racist because racism implies a system of benefit" NT by Dear White People 10/23/2014, 9:54am PDT 
I was responding specifically to the notion that by Fullofkittens 10/23/2014, 10:52am PDT 
Thanks for the context, let's go further and compare it to drawing Allah? by Worm 10/23/2014, 11:40am PDT 
Re: Thanks for the context, let's go further and compare it to drawing Allah? by Johnathan Blow 10/23/2014, 12:31pm PDT 
I don't think Worm gives two peanuty shits if Anita Sarkeesian makes youtube by videos. He just ridicules them. 10/23/2014, 1:25pm PDT 
Re: I don't think Worm gives two peanuty shits if Anita Sarkeesian makes youtube by Johnathan Blow 10/23/2014, 1:48pm PDT 
Hey Worm hear that? You've been upgraded from rape apologist to nigger hater NT by WITTGENSTEIN 10/23/2014, 2:42pm PDT 
If you're not the real blow you're just as fucking worthless as him. by Worm 10/23/2014, 2:24pm PDT 
Re: If you're not the real blow you're just as fucking worthless as him. by Johnathan Blow 10/23/2014, 2:44pm PDT 
Worm: I'm so right I'm morally justified for serial rape now by Johnathan Blow 10/23/2014, 3:00pm PDT 
Worm's killing you, by the way, faggot. Go lay down. NT by Souffle of Pain 10/23/2014, 5:05pm PDT 
You're sort of a stupid person. NT by Myron Faulke 10/23/2014, 7:33pm PDT 
You're in that game that stupid people enjoyed. NT by Souffle of Pain 10/23/2014, 9:32pm PDT 
If you're not laughing at the idea of taking every racist thing you've heard and by Worm 10/23/2014, 3:01pm PDT 
Re: If you're not laughing at the idea of taking every racist thing you've heard by Johnathan Blow 10/23/2014, 3:07pm PDT 
Re: Thanks for the context, let's go further and compare it to drawing Allah? by A FRIEND 10/23/2014, 5:03pm PDT 
Re: Statement of principles: by A FRIEND 10/23/2014, 10:46am PDT 
It's a scary reactionary deveopment for progressive leaning demographs by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/22/2014, 10:32pm PDT 
Re: I need a few days to think of a reply to this one. by a whole actual human ass 10/23/2014, 7:50am PDT 
Yes, let's quit discussing how many cocks Leigh Alexander sucks by M4 CARBINES IN GAMES IS A SCANDAL 10/23/2014, 8:37am PDT 
I'll just respond to everything will "lol moral panic/lol association fallacy" NT by HURF BLURF TAKE ME SERIOUSLY 10/23/2014, 2:31pm PDT 
Wow this guy sounds mad, like a violent internet gamer type. by All caps watchlist 10/23/2014, 2:41pm PDT 
If you think that firearm product placement in video games is an ethical dilemma by WITTGENSTEIN 10/23/2014, 5:41pm PDT 
Hahah, well, Wittgenstein's got you there. NT by Souffle of Pain 10/23/2014, 6:21pm PDT 
It's been a while since my last debate class by fabio 10/24/2014, 7:34am PDT 
Re: It's been a while since my last debate class by Arbit 10/24/2014, 12:29pm PDT 
Leigh Alexander's retort to Gamergate is that the real scandal is VG's & gun cos by WITTGENSTEIN 10/24/2014, 12:48pm PDT 
Re: Leigh Alexander's retort to Gamergate is by Lizard_King 10/24/2014, 7:32pm PDT 
Re: Leigh Alexander's retort to Gamergate is by WITTGENSTEIN 10/24/2014, 8:25pm PDT 
Need to address toxic masculinity quick before white males shoot up school again by Worm 10/24/2014, 8:41pm PDT 
YEAH WORM, CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE YOU JOBLESS SHUTIN... NT by can i pay to bang you 10/24/2014, 8:45pm PDT 
If Alexander is by im not giving my name to a computer 10/24/2014, 9:50pm PDT 
I think it's improved markedly since I've become a regular contributor. NT by pinback 10/22/2014, 12:33pm PDT 
Having you post here is better than having LK and INC try and shame us all. NT by WITTGENSTEIN 10/22/2014, 4:02pm PDT 
Hey bud you're the proto-rapist. We're just the proto-rape proto-apologists. NT by Worm 10/22/2014, 4:03pm PDT 
I agree... by Mischief Maker 10/23/2014, 4:44am PDT 
Yes. Caltrops is an extraordinary site. NT by Gutsby 10/22/2014, 4:28pm PDT 
I call HORSESHIT by Roop 10/24/2014, 10:21pm PDT 
Well, ICJ, if you wanted to generate forum activity, you succeeded! NT by Mischief Maker 10/25/2014, 10:05am PDT 
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