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Re: Nemesis = How much stupid shit can we add to Wrath of Kahn? by Creexul :( 04/12/2005, 3:55am PDT
FABIO wrote:

Kahn- Meaningful intro that will come into play later on.

Nemesis- Pointless Road Warrior segment.


Kahn- Villains gains control of existing Federation ship.

Nemesis- Romulans trust and allow their slave race that hates their guts to construct and man an unstoppable battleship with build in doomsday weapon and have it orbit their planet.


Kahn- Cat and mouse chase where the Enterprise overcomes a major disadvantage with clever tactical maneuvering. The benchmark in capital ship combat for future games and movies.

Nemesis- No chase. Enterprise overcomes a major tactical advantage with lots and lots of stupid shit and zero use of tactics.


Kahn tactic: Use build in overrides in computer to level the playing field.

Nemesis tactic: Take advantage of the villain wanting to fuck Troi via telepathic link in order to detect the villain's cloaked ship.

Kahn tactic: Fake out enemy into believing Enterprise is more damaged than it really is.

Nemesis tactic: Physically ram a ship at close to light speed and come out relatively unscathed because the Enterprise's saucer is all pointy like a knife and stuff.

Kahn tactic: Lure villain's ship into a nebula where they will lose their shield/sensor advantage.

Nemesis tactic: Beam Picard aboard the enemy ship and have him John Woo his way past hundreds of enemy crew to reach the bridge.

Kahn Tactic: After the villain's ship is crippled and dead in space, activate a doomsday bomb that will kill everyone before they can get away....unless Spock can expose himself to a deadly radiation leak to make repairs (left all their radiation suits at home I guess).

Nemesis tactic: After the villain's ship is crippled and dead in space, yet somehow the doomsday weapon that takes up 80% of its superstructure is still intact, activate said doomsday weapon to kill Enterprise. Hey, every single external weapon may be out, but this power guzzling planet-killer that runs through the entire ship is the only thing that still works! Enterprise cannot get away....unless Spock Data can sacrificie himself by.....leaping across empty space onto the other ship, make his way to engineering, and fire a hand phaser into the reactor.



One thing you missed. In Star Trek 2, Khan is severely wounded when they fire directly onto the bridge and blow off a warp nacelle and there's fuckin awesome explosions and shit. In Nemesis, Picard kills his younger, balder clone by pulling down a wall pipe which the dude runs into. You can almost hear Star Trek fans across the world going "........oh." Not even hidden in the final finished film is the pipe sliding slightly upwards on the actor's chest plate, and then there are camera's filming there and a bunch of people in t-shirts standing around about 10 feet away. You can't see them, but you know they're there, and that they've pretty much given up on even making this movie. The guy fuckin bounced off THE FATAL WALL PIPE.

There were a VERY few good things in Nemesis about Picard contemplating this and that about how his life could be different. Very TNG in a good way. That's about 10 good minutes of the film out of the rest of the crap, bad action, rerouting auxiliary power to shields, shields still being down to 30%, warp containment field in danger of collapsing, evasive manuevers, a retarded Data clone, and forced humor.
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        Faggot shit sure to be featured in GOW2 by Baltimora - Tarzan Boy.mp3 04/09/2005, 5:16pm PDT NEW
            Re: Faggot shit sure to be featured in GOW2 by Creexul :( 04/09/2005, 5:17pm PDT NEW
                Could Star Trek The Next Generation: Generations had been any worse? Yes! by FABIO 04/09/2005, 6:39pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Could Star Trek The Next Generation: Generations had been any worse? Yes! by Creexul :( 04/09/2005, 8:50pm PDT NEW
                        so him getting crushed by a walkway was better? NT by FABIO 04/09/2005, 11:13pm PDT NEW
                            There's a happy ending to this story by Siskel and Ebert 04/10/2005, 12:10am PDT NEW
                            Technically I think the death was "falling off a cliff." NT by Creexul :( 04/10/2005, 12:34am PDT NEW
                                Which by the way is a perfect counterpoint to one of the first ST5 scenes. by Creexul :( 04/10/2005, 12:36am PDT NEW
                                    NOOOOO no by Baltimora - Tarzan Boy.mp3 04/10/2005, 12:37am PDT NEW
                                        liberal hollywood telling us to surrender to the terrorists NT by FABIO 04/10/2005, 1:29am PDT NEW
                                            http://www.bringbackkirk.com/ NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 04/10/2005, 1:33am PDT NEW
                                    It also invalidates a line in TNG (Ep. 1?) by Bill Dungsroman 04/11/2005, 2:41am PDT NEW
                                        He did. by Creexul :( 04/11/2005, 4:10am PDT NEW
                                            Okay. Continuity:1 Ignoble Kirk Death: 1 also. NT by Bill Dungsroman 04/11/2005, 10:02am PDT NEW
                                At the bottom of the cliff, the Gorn should have been waiting to battle him. NT by mark 04/11/2005, 12:15am PDT NEW
                                    Follow up: by mark 04/11/2005, 12:18am PDT NEW
                                    Then he makes out with a green chick. Then Picard wakes up, it was all a dream. NT by Mischief Maker 04/12/2005, 3:42pm PDT NEW
                        ALL of the TNG movies are TERRIBLE. by bink, in Kentucky. 04/11/2005, 9:29am PDT NEW
                            First Contact was good. If they took out the Borg queen it would have been great NT by FABIO 04/11/2005, 12:40pm PDT NEW
                                Insurrection wasn't too bad either. NT by Creexul :( 04/11/2005, 4:20pm PDT NEW
                                    Insurrection may not have been too bad, but it sure wasn't too good. NT by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 04/11/2005, 4:59pm PDT NEW
                                        It was better than Nemesis, and probably should've been the real last TNG movie. NT by Creexul :( 04/11/2005, 11:07pm PDT NEW
                                            Nemesis = How much stupid shit can we add to Wrath of Kahn? by FABIO 04/11/2005, 11:48pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: Nemesis = How much stupid shit can we add to Wrath of Kahn? by Creexul :( 04/12/2005, 3:55am PDT NEW
                                                    Re: Nemesis = How much stupid shit can we add to Wrath of Kahn? by laudablepuss 04/12/2005, 3:40pm PDT NEW
                                                        Re: Nemesis = How much stupid shit can we add to Wrath of Kahn? by Mischief Maker 04/12/2005, 4:01pm PDT NEW
                                                            Re: Nemesis = How much stupid shit can we add to Wrath of Kahn? by Creexul :( 04/12/2005, 4:24pm PDT NEW
                                                            Re: Nemesis = How much stupid shit can we add to Wrath of Kahn? by laudable Lords of Magic 04/12/2005, 5:03pm PDT NEW
                                                                Goddamnit I knew I'd fuck that up. >:( NT by laudablepuss 04/12/2005, 5:04pm PDT NEW
                                                                    Called shot. NT by Bill Dungsroman 04/12/2005, 5:15pm PDT NEW
                                                                        It's just a little thing I do. I think the chicks dig it. NT by laudablepuss 04/12/2005, 6:05pm PDT NEW
                                                                            The SAS sunk your chicks :( NT by Entropy Stew 04/12/2005, 6:41pm PDT NEW
                                The Borg Queen is basically what ruined it, honestly. 7 or 8 down to 2. NT by bink 04/11/2005, 7:50pm PDT NEW
            Re: Faggot shit sure to be featured in GOW2 by BaldHeaded John 04/10/2005, 5:09pm PDT NEW
        Re: IGN already reviewing God of War 2 by Baltimora - Tarzan Boy.mp3 04/09/2005, 5:17pm PDT NEW
            whoops NT by Baltimora - Tarzan Boy.mp3 04/09/2005, 5:18pm PDT NEW
                whoa-o-o-o-o-ooh whoa-o-ah whoa-o-o-o-oooh whoa-o-oh! NT by Bill Dungsroman 04/09/2005, 5:49pm PDT NEW
    More natural double-jumps! by extarbags 04/09/2005, 1:57pm PDT NEW
        Re: More natural double-jumps! by FABIO 04/09/2005, 6:23pm PDT NEW
            Re: More natural double-jumps! by extarbags 04/12/2005, 5:55pm PDT NEW
 
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