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Re: Apparently I was like 4 months late to the Proteus isn't a game party by skip 06/18/2013, 10:40am PDT
Haha. This was a thing on some gaming blogs a few months ago. Some were arguing that Proteus, Dear Esther, Stanley Parable and stuff made with Twine weren't games while others called them oppressors. To summarize, games are generally about interaction and these games don't want you to interact. They want to monologue instead of dialog which is why they're so short (how long can you listen to someone rant?) In SimCity, Animal Crossing, and the Sims you can interact with the world. In Proteus you can walk around and look at graphics but you can do the same thing in FF, but with prettier art. Maybe that's the funniest part of this, Proteus, etc get some benefit from not being labeled as games because when you do that, you invite comparison so actual better games that are more entertaining. It's also rather insulting to imply that game devs haven't been trying to design games that allow for "zen like relaxation" or "strong narrative focus". Nobody argued that Journey or Planescape weren't games. I'm not sure how I feel about the term "gamelike performance art" but it's a better description of the deeply personal works that define the movement and allows a better critique of them. It also allows breathing room for the works of Rohrer, Benmergui, etc which have some value (moreso than any SJW turned game designer) even if they aren't fun.
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Let's not play Humble Bundle 8 Behind the SCEEEEEEEEEENEEEEEEEEEEES by Worm 06/06/2013, 3:31pm PDT NEW
    You must rant about Childs Play at some point NT by fabio 06/06/2013, 5:05pm PDT NEW
    Pikachu spoon out of nowhere NT by Entropy Stew 06/06/2013, 6:31pm PDT NEW
    Apparently I was like 4 months late to the Proteus isn't a game party by Worm 06/17/2013, 11:35pm PDT NEW
        *compares art games to 4'33", not MMOs NT by Worm 06/17/2013, 11:36pm PDT NEW
        Re: Apparently I was like 4 months late to the Proteus isn't a game party by skip 06/18/2013, 10:40am PDT NEW
            I always thought 'Interactive Computer Art' summed it up quite well. by Worm 06/18/2013, 2:37pm PDT NEW
            Wow. by Gutsby 06/18/2013, 5:02pm PDT NEW
    Where do Art Games end and the demoscene begins? by MM 06/29/2013, 11:00pm PDT NEW
    Look at this brand new, exciting, original RPS feature! by pinback 01/09/2015, 9:13am PST NEW
        Get in here, Worm. Mark your territory. NT by serial malcontent 01/09/2015, 9:44am PST NEW
        A let's not play where they play the game. That's, ah... pretty fucking dumb. by Eurotrash 01/09/2015, 10:17am PST NEW
            Yeah who fucking knows, awhile ago Total Biscuit titled something let's not play by Worm 01/09/2015, 12:15pm PST NEW
                *not NT by Worm 01/09/2015, 12:18pm PST NEW
 
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