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So what the hell is her point? by fabio 03/09/2013, 11:02pm PST Women were prizes and property in the dark ages? NOTED! Thank you for translated "damsel in distress" into French to clarify its meaning. Early silent movies were very short and needed a lazy simplistic setup? Ok. Arcade games needed a short and simplistic setup? Ok. Double Dragon is misogynistic crap when, in a game where hundreds are beaten to death, a woman gets punched in the stomach? What does she think is going to happen to the female action game protagonists she keeps calling for? She's against showing violence against women yet wants them to be the star in said violence. Or would it all be cool as long as you couldn't see her underwear? Is this why Space Channel 5 wasn't hailed as a capable protagonist free of violence: outfit too skimpy? I guess wait till part 2 when she talks about more modern stuff, but her claim that it's a rampant problem is hard to support when almost all of her examples are 10-30 years old. Do we really need to worry about retro digital downloads? Do young impressionable kids spend $10 on SNES games or is it just nostalgia for adults? I can't recall a mario game in the past decade where the kidnapping wasn't treated as a self-aware parody. I remember kids making fun of the roteness of the whole rescue the princess/girlfriend cliche all the way back in the early 90s. I think everyone already recognizes it for the archaic lazy device it is. Everyone hated Metroid Other M for making Samus subservient. Dante's Inferno was regarded as derivative crap. The one complaint I constantly heard about New Super Mario Bros was generic toads instead of the princess. People take kidnapping plots as seriously as they do tying women to railroad tracks. As an aside, where is she getting sexist from Twilight Princess? They made the villain out to be powerful by making the entire army helpless against him. Zelda just happened to be the ruler and nothing would have changed if she was a man. At no point is she a trophy or love interest. Then you have Midna who was a well realized character without condescendingly putting her on a pedestal or making her a model swap of a man. In fact she was an inverse of the whole trope because she only gained the ability to do anything when the male protagonist was disempowered. Again it seems like her whole approach is badly writing a term paper where proving her thesis is more important than actual analysis. What happens when she comes across Twilight Princess? Distort the TROPE until it fits her claim, completely omit the part that contradicts it and hope the TA doesn't notice.

We finally have Tropes Vs. Women by Worm 03/07/2013, 4:37pm PST     Really bizarre, but at the same time very boring. NT by Gutsby 03/07/2013, 4:46pm PST     Decent. Nintendo's issues with women were no secret even before Other M. NT by skip 03/07/2013, 5:45pm PST         Other M by Mischief Maker 03/09/2013, 7:57am PST             Samus being a badass was an accident by skip 03/10/2013, 5:23pm PDT                 I'd say that indicates feminism is on an even better footing than she thinks by Mischief Maker 03/11/2013, 8:06am PDT                     Her thesis is about games, not gamers. by skip 03/11/2013, 5:09pm PDT                         But if Gamerz are fine, there's no need for consciousness-raising in the first p NT by Mischief Maker 03/11/2013, 7:00pm PDT                             Most people don't believe not having electricity makes you more moral but NT by films continue to use Noble Savages 03/11/2013, 9:45pm PDT     Crystal looked like a much more interesting protagonist than Fox McCloud by Jerry Whorebach 03/07/2013, 5:48pm PST         *ARM ENLARGED TO SHOW GIGANTIC ARM NT by Jerry Whorebach 03/07/2013, 5:49pm PST         Can someone look up the number of games that started as generic/fresh IPs by and then acquired a license? 03/07/2013, 11:12pm PST             I can think of a few off the top of my head by Siskel and Ebert 03/08/2013, 5:50am PST             Batman: Return of the Joker (NES) NT by Last 03/08/2013, 7:00am PST             Silent Hill 4 NT by fabio 03/08/2013, 7:41am PST             True Crime: Hong Kong went both ways. by Jerry Whorebach 03/08/2013, 7:59pm PST     So the problem is women don't get to dish out the ultraviolence? by Mischief Maker 03/07/2013, 9:01pm PST         That's not how the hierarchy goes. Men rescue women, women rescue children, NT by children rescue whales. 03/07/2013, 9:18pm PST         I think making a game for women to powerfully rescue men would be a smash hit NT by A FUCKING IDIOT 03/07/2013, 11:19pm PST             Lollipop Chainsaw? NT by I guess you're right 03/08/2013, 2:00am PST             Why can't women just make videogames? by Gutsby 03/08/2013, 1:44pm PST                 GASP. When we want something done we have to do it ourselves? I bet you NT by say the same thing about housework. 03/09/2013, 1:56pm PST                     Re: GASP. When we want something done we have to do it ourselves? I bet you by matt mysterio 03/09/2013, 1:58pm PST                         Well if the problem is representation, then represent. NT by Gutsby 03/09/2013, 5:17pm PST                             Women can't respresent themselves in a given field until it's made a safe space! by Worm 03/09/2013, 7:30pm PST                                 Women can't respresent themselves in a given field until it's made a safe space! by matt mysterio 03/11/2013, 1:12am PDT         Re: So the problem is women don't get to dish out the ultraviolence? by fabio 03/08/2013, 11:56am PST             Do you guys seriously love rescuing women, or do you just hate listening to them NT by Jerry Whorebach 03/08/2013, 1:10pm PST                 I couldn't look past the violence to find the sexism lurking beneath. NT by Mischief Maker 03/08/2013, 3:36pm PST                     I bet if the sexism was a score multiplier you could've found it, even in that NT by big confusing mess of violence. 03/08/2013, 4:59pm PST                         No, I mean the violence is the more important issue here. by Mischief Maker 03/08/2013, 5:52pm PST                             When was the last time her point was relevant to any Nintendo game? by fabio 03/08/2013, 6:22pm PST                             Weren't you the guy just bitching about the depiction of Aliens in video games? by Jerry Whorebach 03/08/2013, 7:30pm PST                                 Apples and Oranges by Mischief Maker 03/08/2013, 8:29pm PST                                     By human physical strength, I mean. NT by Mischief Maker 03/08/2013, 8:33pm PST                                     When was the last time an Alien scared anyone? 1979? by Jerry Whorebach 03/10/2013, 5:15am PDT                                         Woah, check out captain macho here! by Mischief Maker 03/10/2013, 10:34pm PDT                                             Like post-9/11 Dennis Miller, I honestly can't tell if you're being facetious. NT by Jerry Whorebach 03/10/2013, 10:58pm PDT                                                 In cyberspace, no one can hear your sarcasm. NT by Mischief Maker 03/11/2013, 9:46am PDT             Tipper Gore? Seriously? You might as well join PA railing against Jack Thompson NT by while you're at it. 03/08/2013, 1:33pm PST                 Pfft, like I matter at all NT by history 03/08/2013, 6:10pm PST     Raised eyebrows and furrowed forehead: The Video. NT by In Counter-Strike you rescue men 03/07/2013, 11:28pm PST     What is to her left that she keeps looking at? by Souffle of Pain 03/08/2013, 7:25am PST     Portal 1+2, L4D 1+2. Valve does a good job of having women rescue themselves. by Last 03/08/2013, 2:50pm PST         I'm not sure if this is part one of the series or part one of this trope but ... by Worm 03/08/2013, 6:19pm PST             It's effectively like asking why Maid Marian needs rescued in Robin Hood movies. NT by Worm 03/08/2013, 6:37pm PST             Whoops, it was part one of a two parter, well I'll see you six months from now. by Worm 03/08/2013, 6:54pm PST             Re: I'm not sure if this is part one of the series or part one of this trope but by Mysterio 03/08/2013, 8:06pm PST                 Re: I'm not sure if this is part one of the series or part one of this trope but by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/09/2013, 8:59am PST                     Re: I'm not sure if this is part one of the series or part one of this trope but by Mischief Maker 03/09/2013, 9:11am PST     I remember my pioneering work in this area... by FSBT 03/09/2013, 2:04pm PST     Time to her using the word "problematic" by jawl 03/09/2013, 5:12pm PST         This is handy shorthand by skip 05/28/2013, 9:49am PDT     So what the hell is her point? by fabio 03/09/2013, 11:02pm PST     I watched this for you jagoffs. Like all Internet videos it was way too long. by motherfuckerfoodeater 03/09/2013, 11:39pm PST         No more kidnapped women in games. I got it. by fabio 03/11/2013, 2:24pm PDT             I think we found the code word that causes fabio's brain to shut down :( by Jerry Whorebach 03/11/2013, 2:49pm PDT                 Lemme white knight for fabio for a moment. by Mischief Maker 03/11/2013, 3:33pm PDT                     http://www.caltrops.com/pointy.php?action=viewPost&pid=151085 NT by I made that joke already :( 03/11/2013, 5:57pm PDT                         Whoops. NT by Mischief Mencia 03/11/2013, 7:01pm PDT                 So she wants every game to be Omikron the Nomad Soul? by Worm 03/11/2013, 3:52pm PDT                     I guess I just don't get the love for helpless female characters. by Jerry Whorebach 03/11/2013, 6:38pm PDT                         If Ghost and Goblins was a game about rescuing bananas I wouldn't care. by Worm 03/11/2013, 7:12pm PDT                             Is that what she's asking for? Because that would be fucking stupid. by Jerry Whorebach 03/11/2013, 7:48pm PDT                                 I think you'll be somewhat surprised at least. NT by Worm 03/11/2013, 8:09pm PDT                                     You were right! (SPOILERS) by Jerry Whorebach 03/12/2013, 8:55pm PDT                             Ghosts n' Goblins by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/11/2013, 9:19pm PDT                                 Daphne was intentionally meant as a send up of the damsel in distress trope. by Mischief Mencia 03/11/2013, 10:06pm PDT                                 Re: Ghosts n' Goblins by Eurotrash 03/12/2013, 1:49am PDT                     Re: So she wants every game to be Omikron the Nomad Soul? by fabio 03/11/2013, 11:58pm PDT                         also by fabio 03/12/2013, 12:17am PDT                             Ha ha holy shit you're insane. by Last 03/12/2013, 10:59am PDT                                 When you say "media producer" it totally makes it sound like she used something by other than a camcorder from Wal-Mar 03/12/2013, 1:00pm PDT                                 epic butthurt 4 the win (go back to youtube Quake) by fabio 03/12/2013, 1:10pm PDT                                     I think we can all agree that Anita Sarkeesian seems pretty weird. by Gutsby 03/12/2013, 1:30pm PDT                                         What's insane by fabio 03/12/2013, 2:01pm PDT                                             Re: What's insane by Gutsby 03/12/2013, 2:24pm PDT                                                 Here's a compromise we can settle on that would make Anita's campaign worth it by fabio 03/12/2013, 8:23pm PDT                                             Twilight is great for teaching feminism! by Mischief Maker 03/13/2013, 8:48am PDT                                     So, in your mind, this was all a scheme to get free video games. by Last 03/12/2013, 2:08pm PDT                                         Gosh. Last, when exactly did you become a sack of shit? by Worm 03/12/2013, 3:40pm PDT                                             Last didn't say anything shitty by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/12/2013, 3:59pm PDT                                                 Time to leave the Kardashians and all other attention-whore celebrities alone. NT by Mischief Mencia 03/12/2013, 4:20pm PDT                                                 Re: Last didn't say anything shitty by fabio 03/12/2013, 9:15pm PDT                                                     An easy way for her to redeem herself by Mischief Mencia 03/12/2013, 9:46pm PDT                                             I've always been shit. by Last 03/12/2013, 7:57pm PDT                                                 Yes you're right, it's logically inconcievable that she was aiming for this. by Worm 03/12/2013, 8:16pm PDT                                         Like Anita, I don't think you're capable of seeing anything past the surface by fabio 03/12/2013, 9:23pm PDT                                             Thankfully, you're here to help us by Arbit 03/13/2013, 9:05am PDT                                                 Thanks Arbit by Mysterio 03/13/2013, 12:35pm PDT                                                     Oops, I meant to post that in a different thread. by Mysterio 03/13/2013, 1:15pm PDT                                                         HAHAH DISREGARD THAT I EAT COCKS by Mysterio 03/13/2013, 1:38pm PDT                                                     OK, I went and watched the video by Arbit 03/13/2013, 5:11pm PDT                                                         Arbit is not dissuaded by her lezzy lumberjack shirt. by Mischief Maker 03/13/2013, 7:57pm PDT                                                         Double Dragon is a game in which the main character spends the entire time by Entropy Stew 03/13/2013, 8:56pm PDT                                                         Is this the first thing of hers you've sOOOOGODCUMMING!!! NT by Frosty 03/22/2013, 7:21pm PDT                 When I call her an objectivist by fabio 03/12/2013, 1:06am PDT     Where o where is Frosty to cum all over an Anita thread when you need him? NT by Jessica Alba 03/13/2013, 2:57pm PDT