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Re: The next game I am making by jeep 07/11/2012, 3:00pm PDT
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

jeep wrote:

this is a tricky problem

I'm going with "click and hold to get a wheel of options"

I totally get the mouse-to-keyboard problem, that sucks


The thing IS, jeep, that you are precisely the sort of gamer dollar I would be trying to go after. I don't want us to get off on the wrong foot. If you tell me that entire concepts are shit, I am listening. So if I can't implement something it's only because I got good at writing in a programming language that started in 1996 with minimal additions since.

I love turn-based rpgs. just last week I played that spiderweb remake of avernum and it was cool, I could probably just play those 90% of my waking hours and not really miss any of the time it'd cost me

on the other hand it took that guy like 15 games to get the interface to that point and you should just steal/copy that, and only change it to where you can improve on it, because...seriously just screen scrape that it's fine. don't use his pathfinding though shit only thinks clockwise it's frustrating.

I would definitely try an RPG you made but I can't say I'm thinking "AWESOME A PC GAME WHERE THE MOUSE IS REPLACED BY LISP"

I think the issue for me, and this is why I stopped with IF in the first place, is that as a game player you only want to try so many different things, and the game developer has to think of each one and code for it, and no matter how much work you put in you won't pass the turing test so why make the game more frustrating for nothing?. if you want a text-for-action rpg where people can do tons of things, you have to write more and more code, and statistically you're kind of running down a long tail of shit most people will never use, and most developers aren't going to do that, so they just pick one solution per puzzle, and now the options are so diverse but success comes from such a limited set that you've made the game feel kind of random, right? all that extra effort went into making a game that's less fun than if I had a wheel menu "talk search stab shoot fuck use_item" instead of getting to a door and trying six keys in order of how likely they seem to fit, I have number of keys * verbs in the english language, and that hasn't exactly made the game better. it seems to me to be more of a design challenge to take six possible actions and make them consistently interesting (or funny or surprising), then at least you know your game design only has to be (number of puzzles * ~6 different actions) and you won't have to burn yourself out setting up one puzzle and then gloss over a bunch of others.
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The next game I am making by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/10/2012, 10:07am PDT NEW
    Re: The next game I am making by jeep 07/10/2012, 11:22am PDT NEW
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            Re: The next game I am making by jeep 07/10/2012, 9:00pm PDT NEW
                Re: The next game I am making by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/10/2012, 10:21pm PDT NEW
                    "PARTY DO DOOR" or something? by Gutsby 07/11/2012, 10:07am PDT NEW
                    Re: The next game I am making by jeep 07/11/2012, 3:00pm PDT NEW
                        Re: The next game I am making by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/19/2012, 11:52am PDT NEW
    Re: The next game I am making by Design by Central Commitee 07/14/2012, 9:01pm PDT NEW
        So "delete a website thread." Got it. NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/14/2012, 9:47pm PDT NEW
    Use a megaphone to ask someone to stop mowing their lawn NT by The Happiness Engine 07/15/2012, 6:56am PDT NEW
        This is great. It will be in. NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/19/2012, 11:42am PDT NEW
    Use a time travel device to introduce failed mod designers to their past selves. NT by Mischief Maker 07/15/2012, 8:19am PDT NEW
    whatever happened to this game by the one who dredges up old posts 07/19/2012, 5:01pm PDT NEW
 
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