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Re: 02_The_Train_Job by Arbit 06/12/2012, 3:42pm PDT
Fussbett wrote:

01_Serenity

So this is the two-hour planned pilot episode, which FOX said started too slow. They pushed it deeper into the season in favour of The Train Job kicking off the series, which is "all action". So did Serenity originally air as a two-parter or was it just a special two hour episode in the middle of the series? Either way, it's clear what a wonderful day it will be when episodic TV content is run right off TV and moves to the internet, leaving programming executives with greatly diminished jobs they can suck at. It'll also never happen, but that makes the thought even more wonderful and precious.

So this episode is awesome. It's basically prequel to the movie. Serenity 0.5.

The battle of Serenity Valley is a little low-budget, but everything else is either interesting backstory or interesting "first occurance of". It's crazy to think of this as a flashback episode mid-season. I'm outraged. Where's my petition?

02_The_Train_Job

I was a little put off by how overtly western this episode was. The western town, the sheriff, the train robbery, the noble theivery... If I came across this episode as the first one, I might not have been hooked if I didn't give it my full attention right away. However, as invested as I am in the story now, this episode was satisfying enough, and has a great punchline with the speech given to Niska's monster enforcer guy.

Two Alliance agents with "hands of blue" show up at the end of this episode, and still haven't appeared again in 6 more episodes. What is this, Lost?

My reaction to these two episodes was reversed. The first episode seemed like they mashed a bunch of character archetypes together and waited for the magic to happen, only there wasn't any magic, just some awkward pairings so we know who's going to be fucking who in the future. Little camaraderie and little humor, besides the "Kaylee's dead WAIT LOL NO SHE ISN'T aren't I a card" bit, which came off pretty asshole-y and genuinely psychopathic. In fact, between that and him angrily calling what's-her-face a WHORE over and over again for no other reason than he appears to enjoy it, the captain came across as a dipshit. The Jayne betrayal subplot lacked any tension because both characters were annoying and the stakes were way too high - murder your captain in cold blood because a desperate, weaselly little fed offers you money when you wave a knife in his face/balls? Not going to happen. That's definitely not going to happen in the first episode, if I may get a little meta.

By contrast, I had no trouble believing Jayne could convince himself that the captain was dead so he could seize power. Mal exhibits a sense of humor and compassion. What's-her-face risks her status as a Companion to rescue Mal and is justified when Mal returns the meds. I hate the cloyingly cute, overt nerd-pandering that is Kaylee. Just though I'd throw that last one in to mix things up.

The enforcer guy getting killed was great. "You're going to kill this guy, right? I know this is prime time TV but when someone swears to kill you like that you don't just walk awa" - BAM sucked into the turbine like so much duck
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Serenity is GOOD by Fussbett 01/29/2006, 10:58pm PST NEW
    Re: Serenity is GOOD by TheHappiness Engine 01/29/2006, 11:08pm PST NEW
        Re: Serenity is GOOD by Chemdem 01/31/2006, 2:45pm PST NEW
    Re: Serenity is GOOD by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/29/2006, 11:17pm PST NEW
    The first half hour or so of the first episode is kind of boring. by Creexul :( 01/30/2006, 10:10am PST NEW
        Except it's pretty obvious why there was no need by Lizard_King 01/30/2006, 3:46pm PST NEW
    01_Serenity by Fussbett 02/23/2006, 6:59pm PST NEW
        Re: 01_Serenity by Creexul :( 02/23/2006, 7:27pm PST NEW
    02_The_Train_Job by Fussbett 02/23/2006, 7:06pm PST NEW
        Re: 02_The_Train_Job by Arbit 06/12/2012, 3:42pm PDT NEW
    03_Bushwhacked by Fussbett 02/23/2006, 7:10pm PST NEW
        The whole reaver thing is explained in the movie. NT by Creexul :( 02/23/2006, 7:28pm PST NEW
            Yes, thanks, but this part of Reaver recruitment is not included. NT by Fussbett 02/23/2006, 7:42pm PST NEW
                Spoiler. by Creexul :( 02/23/2006, 10:19pm PST NEW
                    So you agree with me now, THANKS AGAIN! NT by Fussbett 02/23/2006, 10:28pm PST NEW
                    Re: Spoiler. by Ice Cream Jonsey 02/23/2006, 10:50pm PST NEW
                        Re: Spoiler. by Fussbett 02/24/2006, 12:10am PST NEW
                            Re: Spoiler. by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 02/24/2006, 12:23am PST NEW
                                Agreed. NT by Fussbett 02/24/2006, 12:25am PST NEW
                            Space orcs. NT by Chairman Mao 02/24/2006, 12:37am PST NEW
                        They wouldnt be scary or interesting if we never encountered them anywhere NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2006, 6:50pm PST NEW
                Maybe they secrete the chemical or something? by Mischief Maker 07/15/2010, 12:03pm PDT NEW
                    "Jayne" Baldwin is a staunch republican, he writes for Big Hollywood. NT by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/15/2010, 12:14pm PDT NEW
                        That's what makes him so good at playing an an amoral dumbass! NT by Mischief Maker 07/15/2010, 12:47pm PDT NEW
                            Like Alec? 8) NT by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/15/2010, 2:47pm PDT NEW
                                HOW DARE YOU YOU SELFISH LITTLE PIG NT by Vested Id 07/15/2010, 3:38pm PDT NEW
                                    Alec is lucky, everyone's going to forget about his call. by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/15/2010, 4:37pm PDT NEW
                    He's not related to those Baldwins NT by Mysterious Stranger 07/15/2010, 12:42pm PDT NEW
                    He's unrelated to the 4 Baldwins NT by STOP SKIMMING 07/15/2010, 4:05pm PDT NEW
    04_Shindig by Fussbett 02/26/2006, 12:46pm PST NEW
    05_Safe by Fussbett 02/26/2006, 12:57pm PST NEW
        Re: 05_Safe by Weyoun Voidbringer 03/07/2006, 12:52pm PST NEW
    06_Our_Mrs_Reynolds by Fussbett 02/26/2006, 1:05pm PST NEW
        Re: 06_Our_Mrs_Reynolds by Firefly 02/26/2006, 1:33pm PST NEW
            Re: 06_Our_Mrs_Reynolds by Shredder 02/26/2006, 2:52pm PST NEW
                The goal is Caltrops with no names. NT by Chairman Mao 02/26/2006, 3:08pm PST NEW
                    The Goal of Mao is to pussy out and run away... by Quentor the Becktarian 02/26/2006, 3:28pm PST NEW
                        I'm beginning to think you are vag. NT by Chairman Mao 02/26/2006, 4:45pm PST NEW
                            Space orc NT by Vag, I mean 02/26/2006, 5:03pm PST NEW
                            This suddenly reminded me of how many QBs Mao pulled by Zseni 08/29/2007, 3:11am PDT NEW
                        SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR WORTHLESS POSTING by JESUS FUCKING CHRIST 02/26/2006, 6:48pm PST NEW
                            Nice Ator, Shredder. by Quentor the Becktarian 02/26/2006, 11:16pm PST NEW
                                Re: Nice Ator, Shredder. by Firefly 02/26/2006, 11:23pm PST NEW
                                    WHAT? NT by Firefly 02/27/2006, 12:20am PST NEW
            How does it feel, Fussbett by MC Such and Such 02/26/2006, 2:53pm PST NEW
                I can only go on living when I think about the 6 remaining Firefly episodes NT by Fussbett 02/26/2006, 4:38pm PST NEW
        Defense of OMR by Bodybag 02/26/2006, 3:10pm PST NEW
            OMR spoilers by Fussbett 02/26/2006, 5:01pm PST NEW
                Re: OMR spoilers by Bodybag 02/26/2006, 7:20pm PST NEW
                    Re: OMR spoilers by Fussbett 02/26/2006, 10:10pm PST NEW
                        Re: OMR spoilers by corax 02/27/2006, 12:47am PST NEW
        Re: 06_Our_Mrs_Reynolds by Weyoun Voidbringer 02/26/2006, 6:47pm PST NEW
        Mal hit a girl. by Jerry Whorebach 09/21/2009, 3:02am PDT NEW
            his estranged wife who was a con artist that tried to kill him and scrap his shi by Weyoun Voidbringer 09/21/2009, 4:58am PDT NEW
                So how did that killing him and scrapping his ship work out? by Jerry Whorebach 09/21/2009, 5:29am PDT NEW
        Dragging more posts out of the grave by Arbit 06/25/2012, 8:53pm PDT NEW
    07_Jaynestown by Fussbett 03/07/2006, 4:44am PST NEW
    08_Out_of_Gas by Fussbett 03/07/2006, 4:50am PST NEW
        I'm up to this one! by Bunyip 08/08/2006, 6:40pm PDT NEW
        Re: 08_Out_of_Gas by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/08/2010, 10:04pm PDT NEW
            Which episode of Cowboy Bebop was this? NT by Shredder 12/25/2013, 10:01pm PST NEW
    09_Ariel by Fussbett 03/07/2006, 5:42am PST NEW
        That's the last time you see the blue hand group. by Creexul :( 03/07/2006, 3:23pm PST NEW
            Re: That's the last time you see the blue hand group. by chunguo 03/08/2006, 5:51pm PST NEW
                Bumping this so I don't have to keep searching for it. Peace. NT by Quentin Beck 05/02/2006, 4:02am PDT NEW
                    Where in fuck's name are the rest of these summaries? NT by Quentin Beck 05/02/2006, 5:53am PDT NEW
                        Unwatched. I took a break to watch all of Battlestar Galactica. NT by Fussbett 05/02/2006, 9:03am PDT NEW
                            Re: Unwatched. I took a break to watch all of Battlestar Galactica. by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/03/2006, 1:32am PDT NEW
                                BSG is better than Firefly? by Blobbio 05/03/2006, 1:52am PDT NEW
                                    Re: BSG is better than Firefly? by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/03/2006, 2:57am PDT NEW
                                        Re: BSG is better than Firefly? by Quentin Beck 05/03/2006, 6:30am PDT NEW
                                            YEAH THIS IS FUCKIN BULLSHIT MAN >:( NT by Creexul :( 05/03/2006, 8:27am PDT NEW
                                            Re: BSG is better than Firefly? by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/03/2006, 9:14am PDT NEW
                                                I liked BSG better by I need clarification 05/03/2006, 9:48am PDT NEW
                                                    Also, BSG is serious, while Firefly is lighthearted, so it's tough to compare. NT by Fussbett 05/03/2006, 6:43pm PDT NEW
                                Re: Unwatched. I took a break to watch all of Battlestar Galactica. by Chairman Mao 05/03/2006, 9:15am PDT NEW
                                    Re: Unwatched. I took a break to watch all of Battlestar Galactica. by laudablepuss 05/03/2006, 9:54am PDT NEW
                                        Just to be clear by laudablepuss 05/03/2006, 10:11am PDT NEW
                                            I got it. NT by Chairman Mao 05/03/2006, 10:25am PDT NEW
                                        not really by Blobbio 05/03/2006, 1:03pm PDT NEW
                                            Re: not really by Chairman Mao 05/03/2006, 6:02pm PDT NEW
                                            Spoiler tag in between spoiler paragraphs. Innovative! NT by Fussbett 05/03/2006, 6:17pm PDT NEW
                                                a spoiler about previously spoiled plot point in above post: ruining! NT by Blobbio 05/03/2006, 6:47pm PDT NEW
                                            Shit, really? by laudablepuss 05/04/2006, 12:53am PDT NEW
                                                Re: Shit, really? by Creexul :( 05/04/2006, 1:21am PDT NEW
                                        Re: Unwatched. I took a break to watch all of Battlestar Galactica. by Creexul :( 05/03/2006, 8:00pm PDT NEW
                                Yes, it's good. by Fussbett 05/03/2006, 6:42pm PDT NEW
                                    More spoilers here. by Creexul :( 05/03/2006, 8:56pm PDT NEW
                                        Re: More spoilers here. by Fussbett 05/04/2006, 1:02am PDT NEW
                                            Re: More spoilers here... for GREG EASTERBROOK! by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/04/2006, 2:10am PDT NEW
                                                Re: More spoilers here... for GREG EASTERBROOK! by Ray of Light 05/04/2006, 8:03am PDT NEW
                                                Re: More spoilers here... for GREG EASTERBROOK! by Chairman Mao 05/04/2006, 1:40pm PDT NEW
                                                    Re: More spoilers here... for GREG EASTERBROOK! by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/04/2006, 2:41pm PDT NEW
                                                        Racheal Ray: facial expressions of Jim Carrey, body of a trashcan. NT by Fussbett 05/04/2006, 3:03pm PDT NEW
                                                        Re: More spoilers here... for GREG EASTERBROOK! by Chairman Mao 05/05/2006, 1:49am PDT NEW
                                                        Re: More spoilers here... for GREG EASTERBROOK! by Alton Brown apologist 08/28/2007, 9:41am PDT NEW
                                                "I have devoted my life to the twin disciplines of martial arts and cooking..." NT by TV: OFF! 05/04/2006, 10:26pm PDT NEW
                                                Re: More spoilers here... for GREG EASTERBROOK! by Bunyip 05/05/2006, 12:26am PDT NEW
                                                    It was hard to keep track of all my gay domains. by Fussbett 05/05/2006, 12:36am PDT NEW
                                                        Re: It was hard to keep track of all my gay domains. by Quentin Beck 05/05/2006, 8:07am PDT NEW
                                                            Yeah, other than wearing the worst fitting suit ever. NT by QB 05/05/2006, 8:25am PDT NEW
                                                            Hey, what's the deal with that BDR photo, I wonder. NT by Quentin Beck 05/06/2006, 8:39pm PDT NEW
                                                                Seriously now, people. Let's keep me informed. What's the go with that photo? by Quentin Beck 05/07/2006, 2:51am PDT NEW
                                                                    Why is no one helping this important QUENTIN BECK person?! NT by Mysterio 05/07/2006, 3:44am PDT NEW
                                                                        Re: Why is no one helping this important QUENTIN BECK person?! by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/07/2006, 5:28pm PDT NEW
                                                                            It's not from QT3. Bill denies it's real. by Quentin Beck 05/07/2006, 11:43pm PDT NEW
                                                                                Asked him about it, did you? by Quentin Beck 08/09/2006, 4:07am PDT NEW
                                                                    Re: Seriously now, people. Let's keep me informed. What's the go with that photo by laudablepuss 05/11/2006, 11:09pm PDT NEW
                                    Re: Yes, it's good. by up with pod people 05/03/2006, 10:37pm PDT NEW
                                        Nice one, Zseni by Cannibal Dave 05/07/2006, 3:27am PDT NEW
                                            Not Zseni! But she flamed the shit out of me once by up with pod people 05/07/2006, 3:02pm PDT NEW
    Re: Serenity is GOOD by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/12/2006, 11:44pm PDT NEW
    Warning: contains huge throbbing spoilers. by Jerry Whorebach 08/28/2007, 6:49am PDT NEW
        Inara wasn't attractive? by Dictionary.com 08/28/2007, 7:12am PDT NEW
            She was more attractive on the series. I don't know why. by Jerry Whorebach 08/28/2007, 7:39am PDT NEW
                Inara is the prettiest woman. I use to trawl IMDB For pictures of her legs. by Quentin Beck 08/29/2007, 11:54pm PDT NEW
        Buffy became a grinding slog after they got to college. by Fullofkittens 08/28/2007, 11:16am PDT NEW
    80's intro by Fussbett 07/08/2010, 9:31pm PDT NEW
        looks like they did one for the matrix, too by gruman 07/08/2010, 11:03pm PDT NEW
        hopefully when the show comes back they can use this by Sword of Justice 07/09/2010, 10:08am PDT NEW
            Countdown to mfe or rom taking this seriously and getting mad about it. by Jhoh Cause..... 2 07/09/2010, 1:00pm PDT NEW
    Really late to the party but Firefly is the worst by like, oh migawd, totally 12/26/2013, 3:08am PST NEW
        Was that pasted from an ESL rejected Entertainment Weekly article? NT by fabio 12/26/2013, 9:07pm PST NEW
 
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