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Re: Can anyone recommend a gun for a first-time owner? by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 01/08/2012, 5:18pm PST
I know it's been two years since you asked this question but I thought I'd add my two cents.

I once took my brother target shooting at a full-service range with small handguns with wadcutters, and I'd had some practice, while my brother discovered the difference between what you see in the movies and on TV. I did okay while he couldn't even scare the target, let alone hit it.

By "full service" range, I mean they provide everything if you don't have it: they rent you the shooting booth, the gun, hearing protection, and they sell you the paper targets and the ammunition. Booth rental when I did it, which was probably back around 2000 the last time I did, the booth costs like $20 an hour, the guns cost about $7 and up each for whatever time you're there, the hearing protection (full over-ears headphone-style) is about $2, and the targets are around 50c. Ammo is comparable to what a Wal*Mart would sell them for, bullets are like $7/100. The rule is the range gets to keep the spent brass, so some places may do their own reloads and thus sell you the ammo they build. For target shooting this is okay. They may also charge a membership fee, so a first-time visitor will probably spend about $100 to $150 the first time. If you do this regularly you acquire most of your own items and so it will cost progressively less.

The handguns that we used were a small-caliber revolver which means it had virtually no recoil. It might have been like a .22 or .25 (I don't know if that's a valid caliber) but it was fun to shoot and didn't have any noticeable recoil, which is an important point because if the gun is going to hurt when you use it, you might flinch or have trouble concentrating on hitting the target. I've shot a Glock-9 at a different range and not knowing about the slide problem I got the typical new-user pinch as the slide kicks back and scraped my hand (you have to know you keep your hand away from the area where the gun's slide kicks back to eject the spent brass). And the son-of-a-bitch kicks like a mule! It will hurt your wrist to use anything with strong recoil until you're used to it.

For maybe now probably for a couple hundred bucks or so you can go to a range and rent four or five guns plus supplies and see which you like. If you haven't fired a gun or don't have much experience before I'd suggest getting a shotgun; they're easy to use, they don't jam (or so I've heard) and at close range you just have to aim in the right direction. Make sure it's placed fully against your shoulder, the kick is HARD, and will push back; if the gun slams into your shoulder instead of pushing you a bit it can break bones or otherwise injure your shoulder.

Otherwise if you're using a handgun you need practice, and regular practice, to be able to aim unless it's at point-blank range. And you need to use hearing protection when practicing; a gun is LOUD and loss of hearing is a common occupational hazard among professional shooters.

If you are going to use a gun for self-protection you need to practice with man-sized targets, aim for the heart or between the eyes. You also have to have the will to say that if there's an emergency you're willing to kill someone else. There's no other way to put it; if you don't have the cojones to be able to put one in someone and live with the potential consequences of killing a human being, well, as someone once said, you'd best get a (big, vicious) dog instead. At the crucial moment it is possible that if you can't blow the bastard away he might end end up taking the gun away from you and using it on you.
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Can anyone recommend a gun for a first-time owner? by Mysterious Stranger 12/23/2008, 8:03pm PST NEW
    A deagle deagle with extra CLIPS CLIPS CLIPS CLIPS CLIPS CLIPS NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 12/23/2008, 8:12pm PST NEW
        A gold tiger striped deagle, of course. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 12/23/2008, 8:13pm PST NEW
            What area do you live in that a dog is more highly regulated than a firearm? NT by Fortinbras 12/23/2008, 9:24pm PST NEW
                What area do you live in that a dog is more highly regulated than a firearm? by Mysterious Stranger 12/23/2008, 9:35pm PST NEW
                Quit making good posts, you're going to pass us NT by A murder of shitty posters 12/23/2008, 9:40pm PST NEW
                    might actually have to GASP respond to other caltrops posts! NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 12/23/2008, 11:28pm PST NEW
                    He did reply to the wrong post, though. Still room for improvement. NT by Fussbett 12/24/2008, 8:51am PST NEW
    Just get a Maglite. by Jerry Whorebach 12/23/2008, 9:00pm PST NEW
        You're not anti-gun, are you, Jerry? NT by Jerry's (former?) #1 Fan 12/23/2008, 10:09pm PST NEW
            Re: You're not anti-gun, are you, Jerry? by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/23/2008, 10:41pm PST NEW
                Absolutely no one should be anti-gun, ever. No one has any excuse. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 12/23/2008, 10:54pm PST NEW
                    even I'm pro-gun by jeep 01/02/2012, 1:36am PST NEW
                Good point. I'm back on. NT by Jerry's #1 Fan, a lurker 12/24/2008, 10:04am PST NEW
                Blunt weapons are the new guns. by QuĂ©tinbec 12/28/2008, 7:13pm PST NEW
                    Haha! BLAM! "oh shit!" BLAM! "oh shit!" BLAM! "oh shit!" BLAM! "oh shit!" NT by Fussbett 12/28/2008, 7:20pm PST NEW
                    More videos from me by Cretinbec 12/28/2008, 7:34pm PST NEW
                    Pretty fucking awesome. NT by Last 12/28/2008, 7:47pm PST NEW
                    One by one please?!? Girls are such fags. NT by bombMexico 12/28/2008, 8:15pm PST NEW
                    YouTube: "This video has been removed by the user." NT by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 01/08/2012, 5:51pm PST NEW
        Re: Just get a Maglite. by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 01/08/2012, 5:31pm PST NEW
    Where do you live that is so scary? by Fussbett 12/23/2008, 11:02pm PST NEW
        What about Canadians? by Entropy Stew 12/24/2008, 12:12am PST NEW
        motherfuckERfoodeater by Ray of Light 12/24/2008, 3:41am PST NEW
        Re: Where do you live that is so scary? by laudablepuss 12/24/2008, 8:17am PST NEW
            Re: Where do you live that is so scary? by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/24/2008, 9:58am PST NEW
                you are agreeable!! NT by a longtime fan 12/24/2008, 6:54pm PST NEW
        You're going to have to update Jhoh's entry by I need clarification 01/03/2009, 11:23pm PST NEW
        I'm 5'10", 220, and there's two of me NT by Jhoh Cable? 01/03/2012, 7:29am PST NEW
    Get a used Glock 21 or 30 from a reputable dealer or gun show. by Zsenitan 12/24/2008, 12:56am PST NEW
    Re: Can anyone recommend a gun for a first-time owner? by Ray of Light 12/24/2008, 3:11am PST NEW
        Re: Can anyone recommend a gun for a first-time owner? by Creexuls, a monster >:3 12/24/2008, 3:39am PST NEW
            Wrong forum >:( NT by Fussbett 12/24/2008, 9:05am PST NEW
            Re: Can anyone recommend a gun for a first-time owner? by Zsenitan 12/24/2008, 12:38pm PST NEW
        We would have called it self-defense if he hadn't changed magazines twice NT by Fortinbras 12/24/2008, 4:56am PST NEW
        Re: Can anyone recommend a gun for a first-time owner? by laudablepuss 12/24/2008, 8:47am PST NEW
        Re: Can anyone recommend a gun for a first-time owner? by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/24/2008, 10:08am PST NEW
            that is standard (according to misc.survivalism ca. 1996) by Ray of Light 12/24/2008, 11:29am PST NEW
                So basically, I'm fucked. by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/24/2008, 11:52am PST NEW
        Good point Ray of Light. People revert to training in an emergency. by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 01/08/2012, 6:05pm PST NEW
    Re: Can anyone recommend a gun for a first-time owner? by FABIO 12/24/2008, 3:57am PST NEW
        Still the greatest thing I've ever seen on the net NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/24/2008, 9:55am PST NEW
        dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed NT by jeep 01/02/2012, 11:50pm PST NEW
            apocalyptic dreams and a murderous mind NT by Slayer lyrics 01/03/2012, 1:54am PST NEW
    Re: Can anyone recommend a gun for a first-time owner? by Mr. Kool 01/02/2009, 10:11pm PST NEW
    So only the most paranoid person here actually recommended one by fabio 01/04/2012, 12:44pm PST NEW
    Re: Can anyone recommend a gun for a first-time owner? by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 01/08/2012, 5:18pm PST NEW
        Or you could get a trick gun and "let" him take it away from you. Then: BOOM!! NT by You might have to make it yourself? 01/08/2012, 5:28pm PST NEW
            Yeah, but if someone tried to home-invade Tdarcos by Souffle of Pain 01/08/2012, 7:23pm PST NEW
 
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