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I just read Ebert's Antichrist review! by Fussbett 12/01/2009, 11:02am PST
Like I said about Martyrs, it's great to watch film fags defend Antichrist by bending over backwards to explain that it's not really a horror movie or torture porn (this person says it's Ballardian (he's a writer) and Lynchian, for example) but Lars Von Trier will tell you that he watched a lot of Japanese horror films before making this. Huh!

Ebert takes this justifying to a new contortionist level. While everyone else is asking Von Trier about being accused of misogyny (again), Ebert decides that the MAN is the villain in Antichrist.

Ebert wrote:

The central character in "Antichrist" is not supernatural, but an ordinary man, who loses our common moral values. He lacks all good and embodies evil, but that reflects his nature and not his theological identity.

This man, known only as He, is played by Willem Dafoe as a somber, driven, tortured soul. The film opens with He and his wife, She (Charlotte Gainsbourg), making passionate love. This is a moment of complete good. In the next room, their infant son begins to crawl around to explore and falls to his death. This in itself is a neutral act. It inspires the rest of the film, which labels itself in three stages: Grief, Pain and Despair.

We must begin by assuming that He and She are already at psychological tipping points. She has been doing research on witchcraft, and it leads her to wonder if women are inherently evil. That may cause her to devalue herself. He is a controlling, dominant personality, who I believe is moved by the traumatic death to punish the woman who delivered his child into the world.

And of course, once the movie is about a man's mistreatment of a woman, well then it's safe. Full steam ahead for guilt-free enjoyment and praise! It's incredible that Ebert has ignored entire plot points and specific scenes to enjoy the movie his way. Oh, and he ignored the opening title graphics and the fucking movie poster, which also hold some clues.

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Antichrist is worth watching by Hans Clastorp 10/02/2009, 6:41pm PDT NEW
    so it's a documentary NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 10/02/2009, 7:00pm PDT NEW
        Kered said we would like it also. :( by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/02/2009, 7:02pm PDT NEW
            I didn't say you would like it. :( NT by Hans Clastorp 10/02/2009, 7:13pm PDT NEW
                Well we have to watch it to find out (opinion forthcoming). NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 10/02/2009, 7:16pm PDT NEW
    the Most Beautiful Piece of Muddled Art You Might Never See by Weyoun Voidbringer 10/07/2009, 11:37am PDT NEW
        *SPOILER* Willem Dafoe's penis isn't EVEN the most disturbing part NT by Hans Clastorp 10/07/2009, 6:12pm PDT NEW
            not a big fan of splayed intestines :( NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 10/08/2009, 1:09am PDT NEW
                My wife disembowled me in a cabin in the woods and all I got was this lousy t-sh by Vested Id 10/08/2009, 2:31am PDT NEW
        Also: that critic is an idiot. by Hans Clastorp 10/08/2009, 6:44pm PDT NEW
            Re: Also: that critic is an idiot. by Hans Clastorp 10/08/2009, 6:49pm PDT NEW
            I understand everyone's shits homotional right now NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 10/09/2009, 7:37am PDT NEW
    I forgot to post about daynuh steevin's review of this, she hates it. by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 11/03/2009, 3:23pm PST NEW
        Point Blank is probably the greatest movie of the 60s by Vested Id 11/03/2009, 10:26pm PST NEW
            Needs more Mel Gibson doing his defiant-Christ-on-the-cross by Mischief Maker 11/03/2009, 10:51pm PST NEW
                I don't even want to talk about that, youse are responsible for all the bores in by Vested Id 11/04/2009, 2:32am PST NEW
                I GOT HAMMERED NT by Mel Gibson 11/04/2009, 5:27am PST NEW
                usually these matters are handled with more discretion *crunch* NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 11/04/2009, 11:04pm PST NEW
                    TAKE THIS HOMELESS GUY *ranger chokehold* NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 11/05/2009, 7:46am PST NEW
    I just read Ebert's Antichrist review! by Fussbett 12/01/2009, 11:02am PST NEW
        Audition > Antichrist NT by Fatty McMasochist 12/01/2009, 11:45am PST NEW
            Psh more like PROchrist. >:( NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 12/01/2009, 11:49am PST NEW
            Yeah. And? NT by Fussbett 12/01/2009, 12:44pm PST NEW
    I finally got around to seeing this. by jawo 01/31/2014, 9:30am PST NEW
 
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