Forum Overview :: Devil May Cry 3
 
Sorry but it's objectively how the game is played. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:53pm PDT
Fullofkittens wrote:

The whole point of the game is to string combos together


If you're putting a combo together an enemy can hit you in the back. If you're attacking both sides, you're not doing a combo. I'm sorry to have to bring logic into this but there it is. You can't redirect or cancel combos yourself, but you should be able to in a game like this. I can't put it any more simply than that.

I remember I was chopping some guys up, and some other dudes were coming up behind me, so I hit back on the stick to face them and fire my shotgun, and it doesn't even turn Dante around, it just fires into the guy in front of me. This is where I have to start reducing skill to work down to the game's level. I'm already stringing SS combos together and mixing up attacks and weapons instantaneously, but there's a bottleneck where I react faster than the game will allow, which is what makes the game hard but not challenging (the opposite of this would be something like Call of Duty 4 on veteran).

The controls wouldn't even be a problem if you didn't take that much damage on normal difficulty (or if you could block all the time like Ninja Gaiden, but that game was boring anyway and DMC3 is still already way more fun). If you take a lot of damage in a game, it should give you every opportunity to avoid the damage or counter it or stuff like that. It's a problem but not a deal breaker.

Like Jso said, some people think that when you say anything negative about an old oudated game that people inexplicably loved beyond reason, it means you hate it or you are insulting them or trolling (remember people thought Duke Nukem 3D was such an eternal classic, haw haw). They instantly are incapable of understanding logic or reason, which history shows we have the monopoly on. Once you criticize anime, such as Akira or Ghost in the Shell, to an anime fan, they shut down and become incapable of assessing information, so no matter what you tell them about it, they won't accept it, even if you say you like it, and no amount of logic or reason will work, as many many years of experience have taught us, so we know better than just about anyone else about this kind of thing.

The fact is, most people who play games, especially games like this, confuse rote memorization for skill, which is how you have to get through the boss fights and most of the situational fights (guys who shoot arrows and etc), not using mixing attacks to build a combo meter on bosses (which is more suited to the swarms), but simply covering as much of the area with swings as you can, or for bosses just dying over and over until you remember which attacks to stay away from. A lot of people simply memorize a game's layout through trial and error, and assume it means skill. Skill might come into the game later, I don't know, I'm just going from what I found in the first half of the game. So if I play more and find that the game becomes really different then I will post about that (I'll probably just say "I played more and the game is really different now the end").
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This game has not aged well. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 7:41am PDT NEW
    So DMC3 sucks because it's an action game and not Animal Crossing. Check. NT by Mischief Maker 07/29/2009, 8:15am PDT NEW
        DMC3 is Animal Crossing. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 8:24am PDT NEW
            Actually DMC3 is more like Startropics to Fable 2's River City Ransom. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 8:32am PDT NEW
        you don't like dmc3 anymore? NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/29/2009, 12:20pm PDT NEW
    I raged against this pre-special edition by Entropy Stew 07/29/2009, 9:07am PDT NEW
        After dealing with the shit Twilight Princess camera on the Wii version I though by t at least its not DMC3 Entropy Ste 07/29/2009, 9:10am PDT NEW
        I have yet to see if I will finish the game at all. :( by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:12am PDT NEW
            You will not be able to beat it by wishing you could dodge all the time. NT by Fullofkittens 07/29/2009, 9:24am PDT NEW
    Didn't the first version have some slowdown issues or something? by Worm 07/29/2009, 9:15am PDT NEW
        You have to have fast reflexes like me to notice the slow controls. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:17am PDT NEW
            Yeah, those fast Fable 2 reflexes! Make sure to post when DMC 3 beats you. NT by Worm 07/29/2009, 9:19am PDT NEW
                Wow you sound really hurt by my DMC3 criticisms. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 10:01am PDT NEW
                    You didn't say the game was bad, I didn't say you said the game was bad. by Worm 07/29/2009, 10:26am PDT NEW
                        Re: You didn't say the game was bad, I didn't say you said the game was bad. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 10:40am PDT NEW
                            fag NT by Worm 07/29/2009, 11:11am PDT NEW
            The slow controls are also because you're doing it wrong. by Fullofkittens 07/29/2009, 9:35am PDT NEW
                bad game design is good game design, ignorance is strenth, freedom is slavery, e NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/29/2009, 12:27pm PDT NEW
                Sorry but it's objectively how the game is played. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:53pm PDT NEW
                    Whoa, why are you bragging about a game you're playing on easy? NT by Worm 07/29/2009, 9:55pm PDT NEW
                        Thank you for proving my point. 8) NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:57pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Thank you for proving my point. 8) by Worm 07/29/2009, 10:23pm PDT NEW
                                Okay, neat, I guess (are you trying to make a point?). by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/30/2009, 2:00am PDT NEW
                                    Not really! Just making a picture. by Worm 07/30/2009, 2:06am PDT NEW
                                        When the animation plays it doesn't let you move. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/30/2009, 2:46am PDT NEW
                                            Between animations ... possibly? NT by Worm 07/30/2009, 8:01am PDT NEW
                                                Went over this already, you should probably stop being obsessed. :( NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/30/2009, 9:07am PDT NEW
                                                    I think he has bigger problems than us (the scat and snuff porn is an obvious si NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/30/2009, 9:14am PDT NEW
                                                    I only see, "you're trolled", "logical/factual", "you're obsessed(NEW)" by Worm 07/30/2009, 9:31am PDT NEW
                                                        haha, I actually just read your post, add "rote memorization" to the list. NT by Worm 07/30/2009, 9:41am PDT NEW
                                    those are some industrial strength arm rests NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/30/2009, 9:12am PDT NEW
                                This was much better than crying all the time. More like this. NT by Zsenitan 07/30/2009, 2:26am PDT NEW
                                    *tombstone* NT by Zsenitan 07/30/2009, 2:36am PDT NEW
                                        *fart of darkness* NT by tombstone 07/30/2009, 2:47am PDT NEW
                    indeed, the boss fights kinda remind me of wow boss fights NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/29/2009, 10:40pm PDT NEW
                        Ultimately the game is and will be better than wowcrtatftf. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 10:54pm PDT NEW
                            naturally RE4 is better for grindan up weapon skill NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/30/2009, 12:54am PDT NEW
                                RE4 is a pretty awesome game. ^_^ by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/30/2009, 12:57am PDT NEW
        I don't understand the GoW stuff either by Entropy Stew 07/29/2009, 9:21am PDT NEW
            When you do a combo in GOW you can turn while doing it. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:43am PDT NEW
                you can also dodge whenever you want NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/29/2009, 12:23pm PDT NEW
                    The "dodge whenever you want" school of dodging. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 8:49pm PDT NEW
                        god of war was pretty good with the dodging also by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/29/2009, 8:57pm PDT NEW
                            Pretty sure the games are exactly the same. by Worm 07/29/2009, 9:07pm PDT NEW
                                They're not the same, definitely not in controls. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:20pm PDT NEW
                                    Well yeah, one uses a wiimote and God of War has two attack buttons! by Worm 07/29/2009, 9:31pm PDT NEW
                                        The above posts you replied to prove you wrong, you're afraid to quote them. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:56pm PDT NEW
    You should not be dodging anyway, because dodging is not attacking. NT by Fullofkittens 07/29/2009, 9:22am PDT NEW
        I tried that on the first boss, you get killed in 5 seconds. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:31am PDT NEW
            You get killed, you mean. 8( by Fullofkittens 07/29/2009, 9:39am PDT NEW
                Re: You get killed, you mean. 8( by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:50am PDT NEW
                    I shot it my first time through, then too the cock out of my mouth, and killed NT by it with my sword 07/29/2009, 10:27am PDT NEW
                        orig or special ed? NT by Entropy Stew 07/29/2009, 9:02pm PDT NEW
                            Did they change bosses in the special edition? by Worm 07/29/2009, 9:07pm PDT NEW
                                I messed up on that one because I just did it from the ground the slow way. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/29/2009, 9:19pm PDT NEW
                                    You can also kill him without dying the normal way. NT by Fullofkittens 07/30/2009, 9:16am PDT NEW
    and on that note I will play some of this later today and post about it by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/29/2009, 12:33pm PDT NEW
        gruman NT by gruman 07/29/2009, 12:36pm PDT NEW
    so I played it and once again joh is 100% on target with his review by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/29/2009, 7:06pm PDT NEW
    HM HAND TO CHIN NT by I WILL KILL YOU 07/30/2009, 2:24am PDT NEW
    Did you like God Hand? NT by mark 07/30/2009, 1:27pm PDT NEW
        never played it, but I heard good things (and that the camera sucks) NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 07/30/2009, 3:49pm PDT NEW
            hm i wonder if he was asking me? NT by gruman 07/30/2009, 4:29pm PDT NEW
                If I never played the game do you suppose the answer would be similar? by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/30/2009, 11:25pm PDT NEW
                    we hate PETER PAAAARKEEEEEEEER NT by the gruman symbiote 07/31/2009, 7:36am PDT NEW
    Some new stuff happened. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 07/31/2009, 2:01pm PDT NEW
    Holy shit this is fun. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 08/07/2009, 5:22pm PDT NEW
        how do you want me to play you? how do you want me to play you? NT by jhoh creexul, game whisperer 08/07/2009, 6:53pm PDT NEW
 
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