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by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 11:55am PST |
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Fussbett wrote:
Messiah much? When you're not letting us down when we needed you most, you're giving back, but not before we genuflect a little -- and those aren't threats! -- but sound legal advice. You never know when someone, somewhere, will phone the the DMCA and get Caltrops shut down because of copied text from Metafilter.
Amongst the community I hang out in now, politely pointing out a big gaping hole that somebody else could walk through and destroy all your hard work is generally met with a "oh, hey, thanks for pointing that out!" rather than "YOU FUCKING BASTARD HOW DARE YOU THREATEN ME?!?!"
But far be it from me to stop you from working yourself into useless hysterics if you're really that hell-bent on doing so.
Fussbett wrote:
Mr. Hyde can strike at any time when Dr. Jekyll isn't properly medicated (or when Jekyl's wife is maligned).
I think I've made it adequately clear by now that you CAN'T trust me in the long run, so in terms of general principle perhaps patching those gaping holes is a good idea?
Fussbett wrote:
So in summary, you are sorry, but we were jerks, and then you were a jerk, so you sent one (1) e-mail to correct the matter.
What was I supposed to do? Spam him? I sent an email to roj@pghoster and CC'd it to support@pghoster . . . what else could I do?
Fussbett wrote:
You'd like everyone to stop bothering you on this site which you don't read, and would like ICJ to fix the glaring security vulnerability.
You're not bothering me, no, but it might be a good move for everyone if we dropped the matter and moved on. I'm doing my damnedest to make amends, because I feel terrible about what I did. I'm still angry about the way I was treated, you're still angry about what I did - the best move for everybody might be to just drop it and move the fuck on.
Fussbett wrote:
You've offered to give back 9 months of the database if your name and posts are wiped from the records, plus posts quoting you, plus posts referencing you. That sounds like a fair deal, and who knows? If we're good, and meet the requests, perhaps you'll find the remaining 10 months somewhere else in your apartment?
You are COMPLETELY wrong here. I never said anything about posts quoting or referencing me being removed, ever, at all, and I defy you to point out where I said differently. All I said was that I would be blanking out all posts *authored* by me (but not quotations of those posts) in the initial 9 months - then, realizing that this was putting a stipulation on my turning over the archives, decided that instead I'd be flexible on that point. Thus, if ICJ wants the archives back with all my posts intact, that's what he'll get. Likewise, if he doesn't want to remove my Metafilter comments, he's free not to, but I don't trust myself to behave in a consistent or rational manner in the future, and I advise him not to, either.
That pretty much sounds like zero fucking stipulations, wouldn't you agree?
Finally, I have no archives of any kind from when Caltrops was hosted on pghoster. Ever since we transfered to pghoster, I stopped taking my admin duties seriously, and only had a few copies of the archives scattered around my network - which were easily deleted in my moment of anger. I'm sorry about that, but that's just the way it is, and nothing I say or do is bringing that year of posts back. I'm willing to email roj yet again if you like, but I can tell you straight upfront that it won't do an iota of good.
Here would be the genuinely apologetic thing to do: give back the database without fanfare or stipulations. That would never cross your mind, though, because it lacks production values and robs you of control.
I'm giving the database back without stipulation, and thus I am providing ICJ with full control in this matter. What he does as regards both the points I raised is *entirely* up to him. As for fanfare - I think the issue is large enough to merit discussion, and I wanted to provide an outlet for people such as yourself who irrationally believe that yelling at me will do some good to do so.
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I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 9:14am PST 
One other thing by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 9:22am PST 
Re: One other thing by Mysterio 01/17/2005, 9:37am PST 
Re: One other thing by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 9:41am PST 
Re: One other thing by Fussbett 01/17/2005, 10:09am PST 
Re: One other thing by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 10:20am PST 
Re: One other thing by Creexul :( 01/17/2005, 6:22pm PST 
Re: One other thing by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 6:33pm PST 
Yeah by Motherhead 01/17/2005, 6:41pm PST 
Good point...... OR IS IT?! by Ray of Light 01/17/2005, 10:25pm PST 
Hahahaha [does] NT by Creexul :( 01/17/2005, 10:30pm PST 
PS by Creexul :( 01/17/2005, 10:35pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by veronica 01/17/2005, 10:05am PST 
Nice Ator by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 10:12am PST 
How do we know you're not just Zseni fucking around? by Zseni 01/17/2005, 10:34am PST 
A couple things by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 10:39am PST 
Oh, duh. The obvious one. by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 10:51am PST 
Re: Oh, duh. The obvious one. by Zseni 01/17/2005, 12:09pm PST 
No, it's real by Entropy Stew 01/17/2005, 10:39am PST 
Re: How do we know you're not just Zseni fucking around? by Mysterio 01/26/2005, 3:32pm PST 
Re: How do we know you're not just Zseni fucking around? by Mysterio 01/26/2005, 3:33pm PST 
Re: How do we know you're not just Zseni fucking around? by Mysterio 01/26/2005, 3:35pm PST 
C'mon SB by Give us the deep dish 01/17/2005, 11:25am PST 
I think veronica is actually dead by Bunyip 01/18/2005, 4:56pm PST 
but how many blowjobs are you getting (daily) AT THIS TIME THE VERY MOMENT (NOW) NT by Kthor 01/17/2005, 10:26am PST 
Not as many as I fantasize about you giving me (daily) NT by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 10:36am PST 
Me neither. NT by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 10:37am PST 
I'm just on the VERGE of forgetting about that whole ugly incident. by Fussbett 01/17/2005, 11:31am PST 
Re: I'm just on the VERGE of forgetting about that whole ugly incident. by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 11:55am PST 
Ha ha, yeah, I got a bit crazy there. by Fussbett 01/17/2005, 12:55pm PST 
Re: Ha ha, yeah, I got a bit crazy there. by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 1:08pm PST 
Re: I'm just on the VERGE of forgetting about that whole ugly incident. by Kthor 01/17/2005, 1:00pm PST 
Actually I was referring to my gerbil's cage. Those guys are the best. NT by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 1:12pm PST 
DON'T WRITE ABOUT ME ON THE SITE AFTER I AM GONE *LAWYER* by Eyo 01/17/2005, 11:46am PST 
And you're an illiterate moron. NT by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 11:58am PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by laudablepuss 01/17/2005, 11:55am PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 11:58am PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by laudablepuss 01/17/2005, 12:21pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 12:28pm PST 
Et tu, laudable?! by I need clarification 01/17/2005, 1:15pm PST 
I just thought the entire internet should know that laudablepuss is awesome. by Creexul :( 01/17/2005, 8:51pm PST 
Side note AIM log by Fussbett 01/17/2005, 1:03pm PST 
*SHRUGS* NT by mark 01/17/2005, 1:12pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by mark 01/17/2005, 1:11pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 1:20pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Kthor 01/17/2005, 1:40pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 1:48pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Kab(uke) Seme 01/17/2005, 3:24pm PST 
Wait a minute by Mysterio 01/17/2005, 6:03pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Harry Crews 01/17/2005, 5:38pm PST 
Exactly. by Kab(uke) Seme 01/17/2005, 3:11pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Fussbett 01/17/2005, 1:22pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 1:50pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 1:53pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 1:56pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 2:02pm PST 
The silver lining here... by I need clarification 01/17/2005, 1:16pm PST 
oh NT by whydirt 01/17/2005, 2:10pm PST 
A little note about the DMCA that people should know. by Jack's Inflamed Colon's Law Firm 01/17/2005, 2:26pm PST 
Wonderful by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 2:41pm PST 
Re: Wonderful by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 2:43pm PST 
Because you can't read by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 2:45pm PST 
Re: Because you can't read by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 2:55pm PST 
Re: Because you can't read by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 3:02pm PST 
Re: Because you can't read by Mysterio Lollerson 01/17/2005, 3:10pm PST 
Re: Because you can't read by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 3:15pm PST 
Re: Because you can't read by Bill Dungsroman 01/18/2005, 6:55pm PST 
Re: Because you can't read by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 3:19pm PST 
Response: In which I remind you you are SB and subject to your own inherent flaw by Jack's Inflamed Colon's Law Firm 01/17/2005, 3:27pm PST 
Re: Response: In which I remind you you are SB and subject to your own inherent by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 6:03pm PST 
no more time to school you, I asked a lawyer. by Seriously, don't you ever learn? 01/17/2005, 6:54pm PST 
Clearly you need to read more websites. NT by I need clarification 01/17/2005, 7:13pm PST 
Haha NT by Matthew Holland 06/02/2013, 4:18am PDT 
Re: no more time to school you, I asked a lawyer. by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 7:14pm PST 
Re: no more time to school you, I asked a lawyer. by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 7:33pm PST 
You're not a lawyer. I could care less what your opinion of case law is. by Just go away no one wants you here 01/17/2005, 9:11pm PST 
Re: no more time to school you, I asked a lawyer. by Choson 01/17/2005, 10:35pm PST 
Re: no more time to school you, I asked a lawyer. by Choson 01/17/2005, 10:32pm PST 
Re: no more time to school you, I asked a lawyer. by Creexul :( 01/17/2005, 10:44pm PST 
I'm still waiting for a giant banner of that to grace the front page NT by When is that going to happen? 01/18/2005, 12:39am PST 
The new front page by Fussbett 01/18/2005, 2:09am PST 
if you click no it should also automatically call the DMCA and your mom (NT) by Kthor 01/18/2005, 8:21am PST 
Re: no more time to school you, I asked a lawyer. by I need clarification 01/18/2005, 4:26pm PST 
Re: no more time to school you, I asked a lawyer. by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 06/02/2013, 2:04am PDT 
Re: A little note about the DMCA that people should know. by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 06/02/2013, 2:31am PDT 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Tony 01/17/2005, 3:20pm PST 
Shut up, give them to ICJ, leave. by Bill Dungsroman 01/17/2005, 3:30pm PST 
Time to mention of the GA gang: a record breaking several hours. (nt) by GA Gang. 01/17/2005, 3:44pm PST 
I want a gang too :( NT by Mysterio 01/17/2005, 3:48pm PST 
Can't you just focus your blame onto BDR? NT by We certainly do. 01/17/2005, 9:48pm PST 
Re: Shut up, give them to ICJ, leave. by I need clarification 01/17/2005, 4:16pm PST 
Re: Shut up, give them to ICJ, leave. by Bill Dungsroman 01/17/2005, 4:39pm PST 
I don't give a damn on dead cockroach about you. >:[ NT by I need clarification 01/17/2005, 4:44pm PST 
FYI by The Friends of spanky 01/17/2005, 4:54pm PST 
Re: FYI by Bill Dungsroman 01/17/2005, 6:33pm PST 
Re: Shut up, give them to ICJ, leave. by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 5:14pm PST 
Re: Shut up, give them to ICJ, leave. by Bill Dungsroman 01/17/2005, 8:00pm PST 
Re: Shut up, give them to ICJ, leave. by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 8:50pm PST 
Re: Shut up, give them to ICJ, leave. by Bill Dungsroman 01/18/2005, 12:03am PST 
FRONTPAGE NT by Entropy Stew 01/18/2005, 12:47am PST 
SECONDED NT by Kab(uke) Seme 01/18/2005, 4:43am PST 
Oh, please by I need clarification 01/18/2005, 10:25am PST 
Shut your jewhole by Entropy Stew 01/18/2005, 1:08pm PST 
I had no idea how you'd work "jew" into your post. Well played. NT by mark 01/18/2005, 3:22pm PST 
Vichy Stew, as always, appeasing the SB/BDR reich. :( NT by I need clarification 01/18/2005, 4:16pm PST 
In a single thread, you have managed to out-crazy SB and suck more dick than V by Entropy Stew 01/19/2005, 12:21am PST 
No one has out-crazied sb. :( NT by Creexul :( 01/19/2005, 12:22am PST 
Well, at least we agree about the cocksucking NT by Entropy Stew 01/19/2005, 12:44am PST 
So, how does it feel? by Bill Dungsroman 01/18/2005, 2:22pm PST 
I noticed you didn't deny secretly IMing SB. NT by I need clarification 01/18/2005, 4:16pm PST 
SECRET IM CONVERSATIONS, WHEN WILL IT END??? by Mysterio 01/18/2005, 6:30pm PST 
I don't bother reading the boring cunty bullshit you type. Fuck you. NT by Bill Dungsroman 01/18/2005, 6:35pm PST 
Haha, I don't need SB while I have BDR. NT by I need clarification 01/18/2005, 7:11pm PST 
Ink is probably right though, you're constantly IMing sb at this moment. :( NT by Creexul :( 01/19/2005, 12:25am PST 
Only crazy people use AIM. NT by whydirt 01/19/2005, 12:42am PST 
This is the kind of thinking that guaranteed you an omega-level classload NT by Entropy Stew 01/19/2005, 12:42am PST 
What's omega-level? :( NT by Creexul :( 01/19/2005, 2:56am PST 
Re: What's omega-level? :( by Mister Helper 01/19/2005, 4:28am PST 
Well I'm in the same class and grade levels as everyone else. NT by Creexul :( 01/19/2005, 7:28am PST 
No. NT by Bill Dungsroman 01/19/2005, 1:06am PST 
When, exactly, did you turn into a woman? NT by whydirt 01/18/2005, 5:08pm PST 
I know you're kind of dim, whydurst, so I will assume you're referring to BDR by I need clarification 01/18/2005, 7:34pm PST 
I'm referring to you, you dumb cunt. by whydirt 01/18/2005, 8:21pm PST 
Wow, that's your second-best post this week (and by extension, ever) by I need clarification 01/18/2005, 8:34pm PST 
Why doesn't anyone pay attention to MEEEEEEEEEEEEE. NT by I need attention 01/18/2005, 10:30pm PST 
They actually do. Or haven't you been paying attention? NT by I need clarification 01/18/2005, 10:33pm PST 
*clap* *clap* *clap* NT by Mysterio 01/19/2005, 7:39am PST 
That post was a Hulk transformation. by laudablepuss 01/18/2005, 8:39pm PST 
Don't you see? We need a foil! SB is it! by Zseni is too gay for it 01/21/2005, 5:46pm PST 
Senor Barborito: Homosayswhat muse? by Choson 01/18/2005, 6:51am PST 
Re: Senor Barborito: Homosayswhat muse? by chimp 01/18/2005, 3:50pm PST 
Re: Shut up, give them to ICJ, leave. by Creexul :( 01/17/2005, 10:15pm PST 
Re: Shut up, give them to ICJ, leave. by Creexul :( 01/17/2005, 9:59pm PST 
Re: Shut up, give them to ICJ, leave. by Fussbett 01/17/2005, 11:15pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/17/2005, 4:10pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Zseni 01/17/2005, 4:18pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 5:31pm PST 
Stop talking about legal liability. There is none in the situation you describe by Don't make me school you again. 01/17/2005, 5:45pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/17/2005, 6:11pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Senor Barborito 01/17/2005, 6:31pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/17/2005, 6:52pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Chairman Mao 01/18/2005, 2:41am PST 
How fucking insane was I to deal with this shit on a regular basis? by Entropy Stew 01/17/2005, 9:20pm PST 
Also by Entropy Stew 01/17/2005, 10:10pm PST 
Bipolar people: barely human. by Creexul :( 01/17/2005, 10:07pm PST 
DMCA TERRORISM by Maxime Faget 01/17/2005, 11:00pm PST 
here SB, you wanted to know why people still get mad at you? by Kapow 01/17/2005, 11:10pm PST 
Re: I found archives of the first 9 months by Souffle of Pain 01/17/2005, 11:40pm PST 
This will mysteriously get overwritten when the old posts are restored NT by Entropy Stew 01/17/2005, 11:49pm PST 
Yeah, kind of regret posting that these days. NT by Souffle of Pain 07/06/2007, 7:23pm PDT 
Talking points by foolio, late riser 01/17/2005, 11:45pm PST 
Pretty huge, guys. Pretty huge. by Mysterio 01/18/2005, 2:09am PST 
Moron. by The One, Natural One, Make It Easy 01/18/2005, 3:49am PST 
What an asshole by Roop Dirump 01/18/2005, 5:00am PST 
Something I forgot about until I read your post. by Fullofkittens 01/18/2005, 1:19pm PST 
This thread has improved my opinion of so many posters. by Zseni 01/18/2005, 1:26pm PST 
barbie is everybody's fat friend by Kthor 01/19/2005, 8:51am PST 
Holy shit by Matthew Holland 06/02/2013, 4:19am PDT 
Re: Holy shit by Roop 06/03/2013, 6:32am PDT 
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