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Was oink really that bad? An old power user from oink defends the site.
[quote name="Creexuls, a monster >:3"]Of course it's on the wow porn IRC channel. :( A lot more of this "discussion," and by discussion I mean him saying that oink was a perfect worker's paradise with no flaws, and they never hid the ratio from people, and no one with high ratios got banned (even for having high ratios). He was really going on and on and on and on about it, while I was just saying some of the half remembered stuff I learned about oink from this site. To this guys credit, I may have gotten a bunch of the details wrong. I don't know if Ray was ever really banned, and I don't know for sure that dis<b>grunt</b>led oink (haw haw WAIT THAT'S TERRIBLE I QUIT) users ratted the site out to the feds. Although really, they should of. This guy says that he doesn't remember anyone ever complaining about oink, and everyone that <b>he</b> knew had nothing but positive things to say about it. You can go ahead and make fun of me for not pointing out the obvious, that no one would say anything negative about oink because they would be banned, but really there was no getting through to this guy. I accused him of drinking the oink kool aid, and he claimed he got the reference, but I'm not sure if he really did. And I know it wouldn't have helped to bring up the whole fascism and nazi mod stuff because godwin's law says as soon as you bring up nazis and hitler you LOSE, and ooooooooo I don't wanna lose *HANDS SHIVER FAGFULLY*. PS: I might get in "trouble" for posting a "private" log. PPS: When I shared the story of intentionally getting banned from oink, it didn't go over well. I bet that didn't help my case either. [19:14] [floppity] If you really want to know where I learned what I did about oink, most of it is on this board. [19:14] [floppity] http://www.caltrops.com/pointy.php?action=viewForum&fid=65&viewAll=true [19:15] [floppity] I would recommend going down a few years to where oink actually existed. [19:15] [lolotar (POWER USER)] this post you put up here about the login restrictions is pretty ridiculous/pathetic dude [19:17] [lolotar (POWER USER)] It looks like a couple of people occasionally posting some half-assed complaints about oink, and I mean, they cite a poll which says that most users were happy with the requirements [19:17] [lolotar (POWER USER)] doesn't really sound like circumstances for some vast user uprsiing [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: Ugh, my Oink ratio is sinking like a stone. Next time you see a torrent with seed possibilities, link me to that. [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: I guess I should just hit something on page 1. [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Ray of Light: it's brutal, I'm living totally on past uploads. [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: This is like betting on sports. [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Ray of Light: you pretty much have to upload something every now and then [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: Which one of these torrent is a winner? [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Ray of Light: pick wrong, you're deeper in the hole [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: Ahhh, I picked Carcass and I already have the CD even! [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: This is going all wrong! [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: Ok, I'm going with the Emililililili Torininini album. [19:18] [floppity] Yeah I read that. [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: 2005, so it's new. And people want it, maybe. [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: I can't imagine being at a point in my life where uploading 15 Gigs is still not good enough. [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: But here we are. [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] these guys are fucking ridiculous [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] they're complete idiots [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] it was and is so easy to get ratio on private torrent sites [19:18] [floppity] If you say so. [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] I couldn't spend my ratio fast enough [19:18] [lolotar (POWER USER)] All you have to do is check for popular releases [19:18] [floppity] You had to spend a ratio? [19:19] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Download them when they come out [19:19] [lolotar (POWER USER)] No [19:19] [lolotar (POWER USER)] But I like to [19:19] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Because I have a bunch of spare ratio and I think it's good to keep it circulating [19:19] [floppity] Well all I can tell you is that this was their experience. [19:19] [lolotar (POWER USER)] And they were idiots [19:19] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Did you have any personal experience with it [19:19] [floppity] If you want to ask anyone on this board why they thought this you can, no one will ban you for disagreeing here. [19:19] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Or are you basing your argument off of a few tards who think that a Carcass album is going to get them mad ratio [19:20] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: Remember when I was gambling on a ratio-improving download? [19:20] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Ray of Light: oh yeah [19:20] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Ray of Light: so it's paid off [19:20] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Sanitario666: Almost. [19:20] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Ray of Light: I'm imprssed. I have 30 or so seeding now and total combined up speed is like 2kb/s [19:20] [lolotar (POWER USER)] this is a problem on his end [19:20] [lolotar (POWER USER)] and really this is such a pathetically small subset of users that I have no idea how you feel you could draw any conclusions about the feeling of the userbase as a whole from it [19:21] [lolotar (POWER USER)] " If you invite someone that gets banned, do the crazy oink people punish you for inviting "those people" in?" [19:21] [lolotar (POWER USER)] What exactly do these people think the purpose of banning is? [19:21] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Whatever, this site is retarded [19:22] [floppity] I didn't show you this to discuss this, I was just showing you what I know about oink. [19:22] [floppity] If it's really that serious to you then never mind. [19:22] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Well, I'm wondering why you would base an argument off of these people [19:23] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Especially when you're talking to somebody who was actually on the site [19:23] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Who is on its successor sites [19:23] [lolotar (POWER USER)] And who knows people online and off who are on both [19:23] [floppity] This power user thing really went to your head I guess. :( [19:23] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Did you want to make some kind of argument or something [19:24] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Or just keep up the ad hominem bullshit [19:25] [floppity] I really don't know how "these guys are just retards" proves that oink wasn't draconian and banhappy. [19:25] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Well, I'm talking about their ratio troubles [19:25] [floppity] That sounds more like the ad hominem. [19:25] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Which are virtually nonexistent if you're not some kind of bizarrre person who cannot figure out how to get ratio easily [19:25] [floppity] Well again, that's how you see it. [19:26] [floppity] I already know how you perceived the site. [19:26] [lolotar (POWER USER)] That's how everyone I've ever spoken to sees it [19:26] [floppity] Well, you know what that sounds like right? [19:26] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Yes, I see it a particular way, does it matter at all that ratio WAS easy to get? [19:26] [lolotar (POWER USER)] I mean, you don't appear to have a lot of experience with it, did you actually have an account and try to get ratio at any point? [19:27] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Did you ever attempt to, say, put in a request for a popular album, and then when it came out grab it and get several gigs of upload just from one album? [19:27] [lolotar (POWER USER)] BEcause that's what everyone else did [19:27] [lolotar (POWER USER)] And it works almost too well [19:27] [floppity] Okay calm down. [19:27] [floppity] We don't have to talk about oink. [19:27] [lolotar (POWER USER)] I'm pretty calm, I just want an answer [19:28] [floppity] If you want an answer, ask on the board. [19:28] [lolotar (POWER USER)] Why can't I get one from you? [19:28] [lolotar (POWER USER)] You were the one making the argument [19:29] [floppity] I'm really trying to work right now, and I know that you don't want to hear what I have to say. [19:29] [floppity] So, I'm going to go work.[/quote]