Forum Overview :: Peter Molyneux's The Movies :: Re: Well the movie is still all about Doing Good, so Card won't have to kill him

[quote name="Last"][quote name="laudablepuss"][quote name="Fussbett"][quote name="laudablepuss"][quote name="Fussbett"][quote name="laudablepuss"][quote name="Fussbett"]...but Gordon actually says to Batman on his way out the door "Which one are you going to?" and Batman replies "Rachel." So that part of the movie is Batman choosing love over Good. Worse, Joker knew he would, so he purposefully switched them. He played into the Joker's plan to fuck up the DA. But then everyone comes around thanks to the lessons of Two Face and Two Ferries and shit, so it ends with an American flag eagle.[/quote] Card mentions that when he refers to the audience being possibly misled. So continue, Batman says that, that's what it appears to mean . . . and then what?[/quote] The audience wasn't mislead, Batman was mislead by Joker. Batman thinks he's going to save Rachel. I think I don't get what you're asking. [/quote] If he was misled by the Joker, why does he, at the end, portray it as a conscious decision by Gordon and himself to rescue Dent first? "You were the best of us" and you should take your anger out on us, since we chose to rescue you first. Wasn't that what he said at the end?[/quote] I don't remember him saying this to Dent, that they chose to rescue him first, but that could've just been spin in the heat of negotiation (if it was said at all!!!). Just because he wanted to save Rachel doesn't make those ending White Knight statements any less sincere.[/quote] I recall the scene better now: he said "we three", indicating Harvey Dent was one of the people who made -- whatever decision it was. And "we three" should be held responsible for Rachel's death. To which Dent replied: "Fair enough" and flipped a coin for Batman, shot him, flipped a coin for himself and was spared, then flipped a coin for Gordon's son. So . . . what was the decision and why would Dent hold himself responsible? In any event, there's an obvious question here: why would the Joker mislead Batman at all about which person was where? Does that make any sense?[/quote] The Joker would mislead Batman so that Batman would save Dent and Dent would lose Rachel, driving Dent insane. Also, he'd lie just to fuck with Batman in any case.[/quote]