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Re: I don't disagree with most of what you said...
[quote name="Choson"][quote name="Fussbett"][quote name="Zseni"]The tropes about dudes clustering around a car hood, talking about the Engine and not about Each Other, is as stupid, false, and hackneyed as the trope about girls going shopping together. You know what women really like to do together? Have coffee and bitch about their lives and tell the life stories of everyone they know. AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. {--- key point. Everyone on the planet loves dish and togetherness. [/quote] Men are not broken women. Most really don't want anything to do with the life stories of anyone, unless that person is an astronaut or something. Clustering around the car hood may be a cliché, but yesterday's car hood is today's console, poker table... someone more outdoorsy can fill in the outdoor alternative for me.[/quote] Charcoal grills, driving golf balls into a lake at the cabin/cottage, fishing.[/quote]