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Jack Thompson's Fake $10,000 Charity Challenge
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Re: You've gotta admit...
[quote name="I need clarification"][quote name="Zseni (shoots with Mother on Sats.)"]The main thing is that people's lives just aren't that valuable.[/quote] Are you ever going to be done with this tired schtick of leading off with a "shocking" statement? Are you still hoping someone will take the bait, even just once? You already went to the end of the rope and posted granny porn. Consider us good and shocked (and awed). [quote name = "Zseni"]Trying to save and protect every human life means eradicating most of the opportunities we have to risk, create, grow, and fail. Plus nobody's actually all that interested in saving human lives; it doesn't take a lot of money to keep drinking water clean in Chad, but who gives a flying fuck about people dying in Chad? Who cares about Pakistani rug-weavers with contorted fingers and spines? Who really gives shit one about mass rapes in Uzbekistan? Psh, nobody. BUT THIRTY TWO VIRGINIA TECH STUDENTS?~~?!?!! TIME TO REAPPRAISE OUR PRIORITIES, GUYS![/quote] YEAH BECAUSE NO RAPIST IN UZBEKISTAN IS IN MY BACKYARD. You're not scoring any points, you're just bloviating. You want people to pass laws banning dirty water in Chad, or do you want them to react to events happening on college campuses in the US? And finally, whose priorities are "ours," anyway? I certainly haven't changed my stance on gun control as a result of the VT shootings. Just because you couldn't wait to let all the men in here work you up into another screaming hissy fit doesn't mean we're all going to strap on the 4-ply latex and put a fucking clothespin on our nose. [quote name = "Zseni"]Guns should also represent the right and responsibility of self-defense. People who demurely and oh-so-coyly life their hands to heaven and exclaim "even if I <i>could</i>, I <i>wouldn't</i>" are fooling themselves. You push a hundred thousand slow deaths upon the people of this planet every morning: in the exhaust of your car, the price of your coffee, the chicken in your breakfast burrito, the shirt on your back. Everything you do as a citizen of a modern Western nation is the product of other people's grief, sweat, and disadvantage. This slo-mo violence at a distance, this sanctioned slaughter - the inherent and inescapable violence of capitalism, which wrings from the loser and gives to the winner - is your birthright. I'm not telling you to stop it. HEY, LUCKY YOU. But I am saying that it's disingenuous to complain that you wouldn't shoot a guy who's threatening your life, let's throw out all the guns already. You'll kill a whole planet before you start biking to work, jackass, so don't get precious with me. What you resent is the immediacy, and more than that, <i>the responsibility</i>. The same fucktard who's all "oh I couldn't possibly!!!" has no problem calling the cops and having the state exterminate a human on his behalf. He has no problems or concerns about the grotesque and violent death of the criminal in state custody. He just doesn't want to get his hands dirty.[/quote] Who exactly is saying this? I'd gladly shoot anyone, any time. I just would rather not have to. And even more so, I don't feel like getting shot. Exactly where between your eardrums and whatever lobe is responsible for language does that somehow get scrambled into "girly man?" [quote name = "Zseni"]Purely as a feminist, I favor any technology that obliterates the physical advantages men enjoy over women. Women, of course, need to step up to the plate on this one, but at least the tools are there. Removing the right to bear arms just because women's lives are potentially endangered by guns - it's remarkably similar to the idea that removing Saddam Hussein will help protect endangered Iraqi women. The same specious reasoning is at work, and in each case it hides the same fundamental flaw: that somehow, magically, the world without this ONE thing which endangers the ladies will become much safer for women than it ever has been previously. In both cases the fundamental causes of violence against women are ignored in favor of attacking the tools of violence.[/quote] Well, pardon all the rest of us for being tiny-brained idiots who can only entertain one thought at a time. We're too busy wailing and moaning about gun control to possibly consider other ideas that could reduce violence against women or even people worth protecting. Anyway, then you go on to make more stupid generalizations in the hunt to make a point and generally bore everyone to death. This is the problem with thinking about going to law school but not actually doing it. You've become one with the talking heads and you're not even aware of it. I'm pretty sure you used to have thoughts of your own and could actually argue them. The rest of us await your return. :)[/quote]