Caltrops - Links 2003





	[quote name="whydirt, fag prince of jazz"][quote name="DrunkofKittens"]...and here is a definition for <a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiWiki"> a wiki</a>, which is a word that he takes for granted his readers will know, but this particular reader did not. {--- This sentence is so fucked up grammatically that I can't even begin to fix it. Anyways, very interesting article, though he doesn't really make any "points" per se, besides the one where he thinks an online community will die without moderators... which goes contrary to the two most fruitful online communities I've personally witnessed (POE and OMM's forums). [/quote] I disagree with your assumption that the OMM forums weren't moderated. I might accept that they were not moderated heavily by the actual folks with the official title to do so, but as anyone who didn't have their head completely up their ass will testify, the group certainly policed itself quite well. One could certainly make a case that the mob was overambitious with its self-policing duties at times. [quote]It seems like guys like this guy would want to know about this particular site, since it really flies in the face of his preconceptions. Interesting fact #1: We don't have a problem with n00bs coming in and talking shit. Why? Ocould say that it's because we're such artful flamers and such an insular group that no one else but us enjoys posting here... but truthfully we don't have to go into "clubby flame mode" very often. Is it just that there are a million messageboards out there and there isn't much to draw new people in here, in terms of content? Interesting fact #2: The "group as user" identity that he keeps talking about was so strong, in this case, that it actually survived what should have been the end in terms of his classic "group destroys itself" model. OMM's forum had a purpose (discuss OMM), but eventually it got out of control, Chet couldn't/didn't want to keep it going if it wasn't what he wanted to see on his forum, but the mutant group that had grown up there (that very malignant force which should have destroyed the group) was actually a group on its own, and those of us that saw that second group as something worth saving came right over when we found out this site was here. Interesting, too, is his party analogy, where people want to leave but don't. This spring there were definitely times when I think most people were most getting pissed off and would have rather not have posted, but kept posting anyway because it would be sad for the community (such as it is) to die. Goddamn, my glass is empty again. Anyways, that article is long but you'll be happy to recognize yourself in it if you read it. FoK[/quote] You do realize that Clay Shirky is Hokie Mokie from the old forums, right? Personally, I'm still waiting to see if the party will pick up later. I heard someone's bringing a fifth of the Captain.[/quote]