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[quote name="FoK, still champion."][quote name="laudablepuss"][quote name="FABIO"][quote name="foogla"] Any 25th level Wizard exhausting his 1st level slots before his higher level slots ist pretty much dead (death by stupidity). You always exhaust your 9th and higher slots (Timestop and Disjunction), 6th and then 3rd level slots (counterspelling/debuffing with Greater Dispelling and Dispell Magic) unless metamagic feats are involved. Or in other words: you have no idea what you are talking about.[/quote] holy shit that was gay I think NOT knowing about the above makes me a better person. I win.[/quote] So, just to be clear: D&D is gay and stupid, and anyone who argues that it's not stupid is gay and can be safely ignored. You profess ignorance of what you're talking about and brag about this fact. If a fag D&D player points out that you're not arguing, you're just shouting at the air and that you haven't even played the game in 8 years, you just tell them to stop replying to you. I guess because you weren't interested in arguing in the first place (because talking about this subject makes you a gay queer fag) and would rather make thunderous pronouncements. Fantastic. I urge everyone to follow FABIO's advice. FABIO wins by the same reasoning that allowed FOK to beat the fucking shit out of me. The mystery of why you care so much about something you despise will just have to remain unsolved.[/quote] If you hadn't noticed EVERYONE IN THIS VIDEO-GAME FORUM IS A FAG THAT LIKES QUEER SHIT. Most if not all of us have played 1000+ hours of fantasy-themed video games, and I'd bet that more than 50% have spent several all-nighters playing D&D. (I played D&D 1st edition! Represent for old skool!). I stopped playing them, but I am still interested in talking about them. Is there a problem with that? You got some persecution complex, there, buddy. This current thread is not about whether D&D is gay, or whether you are a fag (you are), it is about whether the D&D model for spellcasting is logical and well-implemented. The argument with me was not about D&D or whether you are a fag (you ARE, you are), it was about whether D&D-entitled games need to have the PnP rules obviously implemented. Quit whining and get with the program. As far as <a href="http://www.caltrops.com/pointy.php?action=viewPost&pid=14421">not arguing</a> and <a href="http://www.caltrops.com/pointy.php?action=viewPost&pid=14439">shouting in the air</a> is concerned, well, yeah. I guess some people do try to win arguments that way. FoK[/quote]