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	[quote name="not MOAB"][quote name="Damocles"][quote name="not MOAB"][quote name="Damocles"][quote name="Not MOAB"][quote name="Damocles"][quote name="Not MOAB"][quote name="Damocles"][quote name="Is MOAB"][quote name="I don't buy it."][quote name="Not MOAB"]Obviously there is a conservative bent to televised political puditry. Liberal persuasion consists of the highbrow sneer from self-satisfied snobs ladled out for people with a 40 IQ. This is not an ideology that can withstand several hours a day of caller scrutiny where their goofball notions can be shot down by any truck driver with a cell phone. [/quote]Can you give an example of one of these arguments?[/quote] ...too busy watching us win a war that your people told me only three days ago we were fucking up royal in a quagmire of bogged down no Plan having.[/quote] Oh, well, I'm convinced. Broad erroneous generalizations about concerns over the failings of the civilian leadership (and the role that the real generals played in making it work as well as it had in spite of the chickenhawk dolts at the top) are the best arguments! So, care to field the whole "it'll be over in a few days" bit while you're demonstrating your mad debating skillz? [/quote] In historical terms, that prediction seems more and more accurate by the day. [/quote] "Historical"? Is that your special word for "contradictory by definition"? [/quote] Considering it took over four years to destroy the evils of German Nazism, Italian Fascism and Japanese Imperialism and over forty to defeat Soviet Communism, I think the few weeks spent crushing this loathesome regime certainly qualifies. I realize that you were applying a literal definition of "a few days" to my broader picture, therfore I am even more right and you are even more of a fucking moron. How about you get back to raging against the American Zionist oil mafia with your "Bush Is Hitler! Ashcroft Is Hitler! Jews Are Nazis! " billboard and shut the fuck up now? [/quote] And besides that, your apparent belief that there have only been three wars in history means you'd lose even if you didn't demonstrate enough stupidity to choke a horse. [/quote] Just because I mentioned two (not 3 - hows that modern math working out for you, dipshit?) doesnt mean anything, besides the fact that you're a drooling fucking imbecile. Way to abandon any sense of coherency you may have had when this thread started.[/quote] You're trying to argue in imaginary numbers (Day+Day=Day-1?) and that there are even LESS relevant wars, yet I'm bad at math? Anyway, are you deliberately dense? Your "WWII is the only war I'll cite, as it's the only war I know/am comfortable with/think the United States actually was responsible for winning" bit is unsurprising, but only further demonstrates that your "broader picture" is utterly pointless, as warfare ( as should be obvious) can last for a week or for decades. Which means, of course, that Rumsfeld being a moron in thinking it would last for two days and instead has lasted (up to this point) a few weeks is as relevant in the (narrowly defined) "broader picture" as in any other. Rummy screwed up, bigtime, and all the Godwinning and pathetic moving of goalposts you can pull out won't change that. He adopted a flawed doctrine of war (Information warfare), completely misread the situation in Iraq, and were it not for his generals actually having a clue, he would have been responsible for one of the biggest military debacles in American history. No surprise for this almost comically incompetent administration, of course, but remarkable nonetheless.[/quote] 1. This campaign has gone extremely well by any standard. Admittedly, Rumsfeld's original idea of Iraqi capitualtion in a couple of days turned out to be completely flawed, but that doesnt change the fact that in a few short weeks an (largely) American pincer column has driven across Iraq and is now controlling much of Baghdad. This, I expect, causes you and the othern naysayers no end of anoyance. 2. My few days argument was largely semantic, and in hindsight mostly retarded. 3. I just realized that you are the type of douchebag who makes faggy rabbit ear quotation marks every time he referd to the President, therefore this conversation is over. 3. U!S!A![/quote]