Caltrops - The Mysterious and Powerful Cran-Grape





	[quote name="Git"][quote name="Senor Barborito"][quote name="Bill Dungsroman"][quote name="up with pod people"][quote name="Senor Barborito"]It was the only time I didn't laugh at a Monty Python skit but just stood there numb with shock and sickened to the core. I haven't really laughed at Monty Python the same way since - after seeing that it's just really not as funny for me anymore.[/quote]Wow, I'm not the only one. I saw that movie at the tender age of eleven. Years go by, and I read about doctors dissembling about whether or not their patients are actually braindead, in order to harvest. It screams "basement conspiracy theory," but it's still unsettling enough to give one pause.[/quote] Um, I hate to break it to you, but doctors don't (or at least, no longer do, if they did) sit around arguing brain death. A blood flow angiograph to the brain establishes brain death. If blood stops flowing to the brain, it is dead. It will not come back. Also, the doctor that makes the official proclamation of brain death is the patient's doctor (whom they already had or was assigned when admitted to the ICU or CCU) or a neurologist consult. TRANSPLANT SURGEONS DO NOT DECLARE BRAIN DEATH. They do not even see the donor until the patient is prepped and in the O.R. for procurement, long after brain death has been confirmed. People don't understand that there are too many people involved in organ donation for it to be a ghoulish racket where doctors covertly kill or prematurely let die patients to get their organs. That's like blaming the airline ticketing agent for crashing your plane after it's in the air. On of the problems, though, is that there are older physicians and O.R. techs who don't get that recorded brian death via brain angiography is an actual - and literal - proclamation of death. Time of Death is when the doctor or neurologist reads the angio results and scribbles "Brain death" in a progress note. Then we go to surgery and the old ass O.R. tech says "When was cross-clamp?" Cross-clamp is when the heart is allowed to stop and actual removal of organs begins. The OR tech goes and incorrectly records cross-clamp as TOD, when it isn't. <I>Real</I> TOD was whenever blood stopped going to the brain. No one gets better after blood stops flowing to the brain. It drives me fucking nuts. You're all worried about nothing, at least in those terms. BDR[/quote] Being made into a donor before I'm dead, I mean. It just fucking traumatized me while V sits there laughing her head off, I was nearly in tears - and this was SIX MONTHS AGO not when I was some little kid goddamnit. I have no idea why - I mean fuck what kind of violence and turning people inside out <i>haven't</i> I seen at this point? I don't know why but it seriously fucked me up for a good while, that scene. Just something about it didn't sit right. --SB[/quote] Got me too. They should be told. Especially the dead one.[/quote]